COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 098 - jo

[Timothy Ferguson]

Twelve Medieval Ghost Stories by Anonymous, translated and annotated by M. R. James and A.J. Grant

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_twelvemedievalghoststories_anonymous_tf_128kb.mp3
Length: 40:49

Source: https://archive.org/details/YAJ0271924/page/363/mode/1up?view=theater (Yorkshire Archaeological Journal 1924)

To get out ahead of the obvious objection. these don't suit the Short Ghost and Horror Collections because they aren't scary fiction - they are notes from two antiquaries about a brief, real-world, text found written in the endpapers of a medieval manuscript by an unknown monk. It's not spooky. It's two guys going "Have you noticed that ghosts have solid bodies in medieval manuscripts? They tell you not to look at lights: the Danish sagas have that too." I've cut it slightly short because the final page is James going on for quite a while trying to prove one Latin word (calza) means "stocking" and not "boot", with extensive Latin quotations from period sources. Which kind of demonstrates my point - they seem a better fit here than in the SGHC.

Thanks!

[elsieselwyn]

Cremation Versus Earth-Burial by Hugo Erichsen (1913)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_cremationversusearthburial_erichsen_es_128kb.mp3 (49:53)

text: https://archive.org/details/cremation-vs-earth-burial/mode/2up

[Sue Anderson]

Hi Verla, Timothy, and Elsie,

Thanks for these! I'll hopefully get them all PL'd this evening.

[Sue Anderson]

Loving v. Virginia
U.S. Supreme Court
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_lovingvvirginia_ussupremecourt_vv_128kb.mp3
https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep388/usrep388001/usrep388001.pdf
18:10

The Supreme Court case that invalidated antimiscegenation laws.

I had to take one liberty. I was a law librarian, first in a law firm, then in a law school. I have never heard, nor could I find, what the abbreviation "Wall." stands for in the Slaughter-House citation. It's an old case - 1873 - and I was able to determine that 16 Wall. is the same volume as 83 U.S. (same pages, even). Whatever "Wall." is, it has been superceded by the U.S. Reports volume in modern citations. If not acceptable, I can go back and re-record the full paragraph. I could just say "wall," though typically when those citations are read, the name is stated rather than the abbreviation, the way I said "Southeastern" rather than "S.E." earlier.

My voice definitely sounds like it's allergy season in New Mexico - the desert is in bloom!

Verla

Hi Verla, Thanks for this authoritative reading of the Supreme Court decision in Loving v. Virginia (June 12, 1967)! "Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State."

You're ok on the citation for Slaughter-House (1873), because that case can be cited in two different ways. Here's why, per Wikipedia:

"Starting with the 66th volume of U.S. Reports, the Reporter of Decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States was John William Wallace. Wallace was Reporter of Decisions from 1863 to 1874, covering volumes 68 through 90 of United States Reports which correspond to volumes 1 through 23 of his Wallace's Reports. As such, the dual form of citation to, for example, Beall v. New Mexico is 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 535 (1873).

Wallace's Reports were the final nominative reports for the US Supreme Court; starting with volume 91, cases were identified simply as "(volume #) U.S. (page #) (year)"." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Supreme_Court_cases,_volume_83

Your reading is PL OK!

[Sue Anderson]

Twelve Medieval Ghost Stories by Anonymous, translated and annotated by M. R. James and A.J. Grant

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_twelvemedievalghoststories_anonymous_tf_128kb.mp3
Length: 40:49

Source: https://archive.org/details/YAJ0271924/page/363/mode/1up?view=theater (Yorkshire Archaeological Journal 1924)

To get out ahead of the obvious objection. these don't suit the Short Ghost and Horror Collections because they aren't scary fiction - they are notes from two antiquaries about a brief, real-world, text found written in the endpapers of a medieval manuscript by an unknown monk. It's not spooky. It's two guys going "Have you noticed that ghosts have solid bodies in medieval manuscripts? They tell you not to look at lights: the Danish sagas have that too." I've cut it slightly short because the final page is James going on for quite a while trying to prove one Latin word (calza) means "stocking" and not "boot", with extensive Latin quotations from period sources. Which kind of demonstrates my point - they seem a better fit here than in the SGHC.

Thanks!

Hi Timothy, Yes, these ghosts do seem to be non-fictional! Marvelous stuff!!! I really enjoyed listening!
PL OK!

[Sue Anderson]

Cremation Versus Earth-Burial by Hugo Erichsen (1913)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_cremationversusearthburial_erichsen_es_128kb.mp3 (49:53)

text: https://archive.org/details/cremation-vs-earth-burial/mode/2up

Hi Elsie, Thank you for this discussion of cremation! Erichsen certainly makes a strong case for the unhealthiness of cemeteries.

I see that after his long speech, filled with facts and figures on why cremation is better than Earth-Burial, Mr. Erichsen ends with poetry.

When I was attending to my mother's things after her passing, I came across a packet of memorial cards my mother had saved from the funerals of her parents and siblings. Inside the memorial card for her mother (my grandmother) (born 1874, Berlin, Germany, died 1958, Yakima, Washington) was a folded paper with a hand typed poem. It must have been read at the funeral. The memorial card reads "Cremation to Follow." I don't know the author of the poem.

Cremation Poem

When I pass on, let not the narrow grave
Shroud with its darkness that which once I was
Shutting me out from all the life and light ,
That nature brings in changing seasons here.
Let no one robed in customary black
Read threadbare precepts o'er the tenement
That held my being erst; and this I pray:
No gloomy crepe nor ceremonial grief.
If there be those who love me,
Be sure they mourn me in their inmost hearts,
Putting aside the many faults I had
And thinking only of my better self.
To those, if such there be -- aye, surely some--
I send my love throughout the passing years;
And this is what I ask, that when I pass
The shell that held my spirit must be burned,
Ashes to ashes and dust returned to dust.

As for the sudden passing of my soul---
The torch inverted, the harp unstrung--
Think of journeying through sunlit lands:
I SHALL LIVE ON!

Your reading was flawless. PL OK!

[Availle]

Hi Sue,

here is my contribution:
The Covenant of the League of Nations
by League of Nations Union

from https://archive.org/details/covenantofleague07leag/page/6/mode/2up
(I chose to read only the document at hand, without any footnotes as they are later amendmends)

31:16
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_covenant_leagueofnations_ava_128kb.mp3

That turned out longer than I thought...

[Sue Anderson]

Hi Sue,

here is my contribution:
The Covenant of the League of Nations
by League of Nations Union

from https://archive.org/details/covenantofleague07leag/page/6/mode/2up
(I chose to read only the document at hand, without any footnotes as they are later amendmends)

31:16
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_covenant_leagueofnations_ava_128kb.mp3

That turned out longer than I thought...

Hi Availle,

Thank your for contributing this reading of the Covenant of the League of Nations to the Short Nonfiction Collection! Readings like this are, I think, extremely useful in that they bring moments of political history alive for listeners. I myself, for instance, while I had a general awareness of what the League of Nations was, I had never read the covenant.

Article 22, in particular, was quite revealing: "... the tutelage ... of colonies and territories ... which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world ... form a sacred trust of civilization ... [and] the best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility ... and this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."

PL OK!

[flavo5000]

The Man Merriwell by James M. Cain
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3
46:58
source: https://nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/sffaudio-usa/mp3s/TheManMerriwellByJamesM.Cain.pdf

Here's an early article by legendary hard-boiled crime fiction author James M. Cain from when he worked as a newspaperman in the '20s. He provides us with a history of boys adventure hero Frank Merriwell and his creator Burt L. Standish a.k.a. William Gilbert Patten, cited as a significant influence on Cain's writing career. He even gives us a brief history of the dime novel itself. All in all, I found this to be a very engaging article and Cain's promise as a writer shows very clearly here.

[Sue Anderson]

The Man Merriwell by James M. Cain
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3
46:58
source: https://nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/sffaudio-usa/mp3s/TheManMerriwellByJamesM.Cain.pdf

Here's an early article by legendary hard-boiled crime fiction author James M. Cain from when he worked as a newspaperman in the '20s. He provides us with a history of boys adventure hero Frank Merriwell and his creator Burt L. Standish a.k.a. William Gilbert Patten, cited as a significant influence on Cain's writing career. He even gives us a brief history of the dime novel itself. All in all, I found this to be a very engaging article and Cain's promise as a writer shows very clearly here.

Hi Flavo5000,

James M. Cain will be a new author for the LibriVox catalog. Thanks for that! This was an interesting article for me to PL, since popular boy's fiction is a subject about which I knew nothing.

"Characters, Pattens explains, were perhaps the hardest. When you're writing regular fiction, you draw your characters from life. But when you're writing for boys, you draw your characters from the imaginary world that boys live in."

We don't seem to have much by Patten (Burt L. Standish) in the LibriVox catalog. I found this PD collection of the old Tip Top Magazines, which might be worth exploring. It has both Frank and Dick Merriwell stories: https://dimenovels.lib.niu.edu/

You have a marvelous recording style, which brings characters to life without "overdoing it." Very well read! There's only one small slip that I think you will want to fix. It's in the last paragraph, at 46:15. Text here reads:"Did I love Merriwell?" What you said was "Did I invent Merriwell?"

When this is fixed, your reading will be pl ok.

[flavo5000]

The Man Merriwell by James M. Cain
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3
46:58
source: https://nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/sffaudio-usa/mp3s/TheManMerriwellByJamesM.Cain.pdf

Here's an early article by legendary hard-boiled crime fiction author James M. Cain from when he worked as a newspaperman in the '20s. He provides us with a history of boys adventure hero Frank Merriwell and his creator Burt L. Standish a.k.a. William Gilbert Patten, cited as a significant influence on Cain's writing career. He even gives us a brief history of the dime novel itself. All in all, I found this to be a very engaging article and Cain's promise as a writer shows very clearly here.

Hi Flavo5000,

James M. Cain will be a new author for the LibriVox catalog. Thanks for that! This was an interesting article for me to PL, since popular boy's fiction is a subject about which I knew nothing.

"Characters, Pattens explains, were perhaps the hardest. When you're writing regular fiction, you draw your characters from life. But when you're writing for boys, you draw your characters from the imaginary world that boys live in."

We don't seem to have much by Patten (Burt L. Standish) in the LibriVox catalog. I found this PD collection of the old Tip Top Magazines, which might be worth exploring. It has both Frank and Dick Merriwell stories: https://dimenovels.lib.niu.edu/

You have a marvelous recording style, which brings characters to life without "overdoing it." Very well read! There's only one small slip that I think you will want to fix. It's in the last paragraph, at 46:15. Text here reads:"Did I love Merriwell?" What you said was "Did I invent Merriwell?"

When this is fixed, your reading will be pl ok.

The line should be fixed now: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3

Thanks! I didn't know much about Frank Merriwell myself other than just that he was some kind of dime novel character. I could definitely see the influence on Cain's writing though. Not as much with the plots since after all, stories of a young guy going to Yale are a pretty far cry from the likes of Double Indemnity or Postman Always Rings Twice, Cain's novels are highly character-driven, established troubled people and letting the plots spiral out around them rather than starting with the plot and building characters to fit it. Sounds very much like Patten's approach to Merriwell.

[Sue Anderson]

The line should be fixed now: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3

Thanks! I didn't know much about Frank Merriwell myself other than just that he was some kind of dime novel character. I could definitely see the influence on Cain's writing though. Not as much with the plots since after all, stories of a young guy going to Yale are a pretty far cry from the likes of Double Indemnity or Postman Always Rings Twice, Cain's novels are highly character-driven, established troubled people and letting the plots spiral out around them rather than starting with the plot and building characters to fit it. Sounds very much like Patten's approach to Merriwell.

Thanks for the quick fix! Your recording is now PL OK!

I found the section in Cain's article where he dialogs a conversation between Patten and his publishers about "action vs. character" quite interesting. His publishers think there should be more "excitement, something going on all the time" and question why Patten's character, Frank Merriwell, has spent two pages feeding, watering and resting his horse. Patten replies that the boys who read the stories are interested in horses, and "when they read how Merriwell was considerate of his horse, that brings the story close home to them." Patten concludes "Get your mind off action. Action is what killed the old dime novel. It is all right for a few pages, but it gets pretty tedious unless there is some character mixed up with it that you can get interested in."

[flavo5000]

The line should be fixed now: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_manmerriwell_cain_bt_128kb.mp3

Thanks! I didn't know much about Frank Merriwell myself other than just that he was some kind of dime novel character. I could definitely see the influence on Cain's writing though. Not as much with the plots since after all, stories of a young guy going to Yale are a pretty far cry from the likes of Double Indemnity or Postman Always Rings Twice, Cain's novels are highly character-driven, established troubled people and letting the plots spiral out around them rather than starting with the plot and building characters to fit it. Sounds very much like Patten's approach to Merriwell.

Thanks for the quick fix! Your recording is now PL OK!

I found the section in Cain's article where he dialogs a conversation between Patten and his publishers about "action vs. character" quite interesting. His publishers think there should be more "excitement, something going on all the time" and question why Patten's character, Frank Merriwell, has spent two pages feeding, watering and resting his horse. Patten replies that the boys who read the stories are interested in horses, and "when they read how Merriwell was considerate of his horse, that brings the story close home to them." Patten concludes "Get your mind off action. Action is what killed the old dime novel. It is all right for a few pages, but it gets pretty tedious unless there is some character mixed up with it that you can get interested in."

Yep, very true. If I don't care about the characters, I'm not going to spend hours reading about them.

[TaLampasona]

Ion
Plato
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_ion_plato_tl_128kb.mp3
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1635/1635-h/1635-h.htm

43 minutes

Hello again, I have learned a thing or two since my last recording so hopefully this one sounds better. Please let me know if you have any feedback, I would appreciate any tips/tricks you may have!! Thank you in advance for your time.

[Sue Anderson]

Ion
Plato
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf098_ion_plato_tl_128kb.mp3
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1635/1635-h/1635-h.htm

43 minutes

Hello again, I have learned a thing or two since my last recording so hopefully this one sounds better. Please let me know if you have any feedback, I would appreciate any tips/tricks you may have!! Thank you in advance for your time.

Hi TaLampasona,

Thank you for contributing this Platonic dialog to vol. 098 of the Short Nonfiction Collection! You seem to have the basics of recording for LibriVox well under control, which is great! Your recording has all the right specifications; it passes the Checker app. Your voice is clear. Your pacing is fine.

43 minutes is a long recording for someone just starting out recording for LibriVox. Since you have requested feedback, I'll say a few things, spoken as a person who, when I started out with LibriVox in 2008, had never done any recording at all. For a beginner, I would recommend recording shorter pieces (20 minutes or so) for a while, so that you can work on your editing skills. There are quite a few minor slips or misreads in this recording. It's quite a task for me, as the dedicated proof listener, to point them all out to you, and it's going to be quite a task for you, as the recording artist, to correct them. When I was starting out, after I had proof listened my recording a couple of times, and thought I had caught all my errors, I would let the recording sit for a day, and then I would listen again, following along with the text on the page.

Another thing I would suggest, is that you check the pronunciation of any words that you do not normally use in spoken conversation. We all have words that we have read on the page, and for which we have "mental pronunciations" -- but which we never have had reason to say out loud [take "leaden plummet" for example]. These can become misreads in a recording.

In general, I'd recommend going slow and building up your skills.
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Below is a list of the misreads that need correction. When you do your editing, PLEASE GIVE ME THE TIMING OF ALL YOUR CORRECTIONS. PROVIDING ME WITH THE TIMING OF THE EDITS IS A MUST! THANK YOU FOR COMPLYING WITH MY REQUEST.

4:51.5 Text reads: "Then why in this city of Athens, in which men of merit are always being sought after, is he not at once appointed a general?" You said:

"This is why in the city of Athens..."

6:15.5 Text reads "Sense or passion are too much for the 'dry light' of intelligence which mingles with them and becomes discoloured by them."

You said "Sense or purpose..."

6:27 Text reads "The concentration of the mind on a single object, or on a single aspect of human nature, overpowers the orderly perception of the whole."

You said The concentration of the mind on a single subject..."

7:34.0 and again at 7:56 and 8:03. Please check the pronunciation of the word "sophist," which occurs 3 times in in this paragraph. First textural occurrence reads: "In the Protagoras the ancient poets are recognized by Protagoras himself as the original sophists..."
You can check for correct pronunciation here:
translate.Google: https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=de&text=sophist&op=translate

https://www.google.com/search?q=sophist&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS871US871&oq=sophist&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.2356j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


15.40.5 Text reads: Socrates: "And if you knew the good speaker, you would also know the inferior speakers to be inferior." You said "...to the inferior."

29:10 Text reads: Socrates: "Surely not about things in Homer of which you have no knowledge." You said: "Surely not about things in which Homer of which you have no knowledge?"

32:52 Socrates: "Now would you say that the art of the rhapsode or the art of medicine was better able to judge of the propriety of these lines?" You said: "Now what would you say that the art..."

33:07.5 Text reads: "And when Homer says 'And she descended into the deep like a leaden plummet..." You said "like a laden plummet." "Leaden" in this sentence refers to "lead" the metal, i.e. a lead weight.

34.33.5 Text reads: Socrates: "And there are many such passages in the Iliad also; as for example in the description of the battle near the rampart...


You said: "Are there many such passages..."

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Recording gets easier the more you do it! It's truly great to have the ION as a selection for the Short Nonfiction Collection! You are to be commended for taking on such a difficult read!!!