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Sue Anderson
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niobium wrote: March 21st, 2024, 4:34 pm A trial of mental and pedagogical tests in a civil service examination for policemen and firemen.

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_trialofmentalandpedagogicaltestsinacivilserviceexaminationforpoliceand_firemen_terman_lh_128kb.mp3

Journal of Applied Psychology, 1917. By Lewis Terman

Also updated the measurement of musical talents and ready for a spot check
Source: https://archive.org/details/sim_journal-of-applied-psychology_1917-03_1_1/page/16/mode/2up

Timing: 30:35

Hello Niobium, Thank you for your second contribution to vol. 103, which focuses on Lewis Terman's experimental use, in 1916, of IQ and pedagogical testing of candidates for firemen and policemen. Given the early date of this article, it is not surprising to encounter many "conclusions" that, by today's standards would be considered outright racial prejudice: "Our informant stated that he expected No. 16 (IQ 83), to test much higher than he did. This individual is a street car conductor and is said to be very popular with his patrons because of his genial good nature, his interest in people and his memory for names. He is an Irishman and his racial and social traits have doubtless led his friends to overestimate his grade of intelligence." Lewis Terman

In PLing this selection, I fervently wished you had taken my advice, given you previously, to check the pronunciation of words with which you are not familiar.

Your current selection is titled "A Trial of Mental and Pedagogical Tests..." and, yet, throughout the selection, you mispronounce "pedagogical." I have checked both the American and British pronunciation of the word here:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/pedagogical

https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=fr&text=pedagogical&op=translate

Unless you can provide me with an internet source which supports your pronunciation of "pedagogical," I am going to ask you to fix this error. By my count, pedagogical appears in at least eleven spots... [00:2.5, 00:25.5, 00:46.0, 3:50, 7:20, 7:38, 17:33.5 18:47.0, 19:00, 29:43.5, 30:24] You will need to do your own search for this word!

At 12:00 you also mispronounce "quotients" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/pedagogical

Quotient is an important word in this monograph, given that Terman is concerned with IQ's (intelligence quotients). This pronunciation error needs to be corrected.
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I am also providing you with a list of the other misreads which need correction before this reading can be marked pl ok.

page 18

at 00:46.0 Text reads "The experiment in question involved a civil service examination on standardized mental and pedagogical tests."
You said "standardized material..."

page 20

8:38.5 Text reads "No really serious opposition was met, and only in one case was there any question of invalidation of the test result due to the attitude of the subject."

What I hear is "due to the intention [or attention?] of the subject.

at 9:19, Text reads "...on the handling of a fire cart."
You say "fire chart"

page 26
20:58 Text reads " Text reads "On the other hand, the average correlation of mental age, vocabulary...." You said "mental health"
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Your reading will be pl ok when pronunciation errors and misreads have been attended to.

Thank you,
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Steve
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Herring fishing provided the basis of a major industry for towns along the east coast of Britain from the Middle-Ages through to the early 20th century.

Although herring stocks have suffered a massive decline over the years and all the big curing factories have long since gone, there are number of small companies still producing Yarmouth (& Norfolk) kippers & bloaters.

This recording details how it was done back in the day:

Herring Curing

Christopher Stacey-Watson (1839 – 1896)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_herringcuring_stacey-watson_scc_128kb.mp3

https://archive.org/details/silveryhostsofno00stacrich/page/44/mode/2up

16:12


A folksong telling the story of hunting the bonny shoals of herring was written by Ewan MacColl & can be found on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ov81aogaxg

Cheers

Steve
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Steve wrote: March 24th, 2024, 3:36 am Herring fishing provided the basis of a major industry for towns along the east coast of Britain from the Middle-Ages through to the early 20th century.

Although herring stocks have suffered a massive decline over the years and all the big curing factories have long since gone, there are number of small companies still producing Yarmouth (& Norfolk) kippers & bloaters.

This recording details how it was done back in the day:

Herring Curing

Christopher Stacey-Watson (1839 – 1896)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_herringcuring_stacey-watson_scc_128kb.mp3

https://archive.org/details/silveryhostsofno00stacrich/page/44/mode/2up

16:12


A folksong telling the story of hunting the bonny shoals of herring was written by Ewan MacColl & can be found on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ov81aogaxg

Cheers

Steve
Hi Steve, Thanks for this engrossing dissertation on the complexities of herring preservation -- cured whole, or gutted, in salt brine or smoke.... and on and on. Fascinating! :D The specialized vocabulary is quite interesting--words for each step or the curing processes and for each individual involved. I had to look up "kippers and bloaters" on Wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloater_(herring)#:~:text=soaking%20in%20brine)

Thanks, too, for the link to Ewan MacColl's folk song! Don't we all wish we had a singing voice as rich and mellow as MacColl's! :)

PL OK! :thumbs:
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Hi progressingamerica, Thank you for this selection highlighting Hamilton Holt's views on international peace in the years just prior to WWI. Holt will be a new author for the LibriVox catalog, for which I thank you! :D

Holt's editorial sent me scurrying to Wikipedia to learn about the 1899 and 1907 Hague Conferences. We don't seem to have much, if anything, in the catalog about the Hague conventions which promoted arbitration and "humane" conduct in war [outlawing, for instance, "discharge of projectiles and explosives from balloons"... precursor of today's drones]. I would think that there's some interesting SNF reads in this history.

The Hague Conventions and Declarations of 1899 and 1907, edited by James Brown Scott, 1915 https://archive.org/details/hagueconventions00inteuoft/mode/1up

I also see that Holt edited a book of immigrants' life stories, which has the potential for a lively group LibriVox project:

Hambilton Holt, The Life Stories of Undistinguished Americans as Told by Themselves (1906)
https://archive.org/details/lifestoriesundi00holtgoog

Thanks, again, progressingamerica, for your contribution to vol. 103
PL OK! :thumbs:
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Well, it has been awhile since I've submitted something to one of these collections, so I hope I got everything right.

London by G.K. Chesterton
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/62048

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_london_chesterton_lcw_128kb.mp3 11:58
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silverquill wrote: March 27th, 2024, 6:43 pm Well, it has been awhile since I've submitted something to one of these collections, so I hope I got everything right.

London by G.K. Chesterton
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/62048

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_london_chesterton_lcw_128kb.mp3 11:58
Hi silverquill, Thanks for contributing to volume 103! You read so well, it's always a treat to listen! :D

This ode to London, which starts with riders on the underground railway reacting to the names of the stops, reminded me of the way a certain dedicated New Yorker of my acquaintance will elaborate on "the great American metropolis" subway stop by subway stop. London and New York: cities of the mind ...

PL OK! :thumbs:
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Sue Anderson wrote: March 28th, 2024, 7:42 am
This ode to London, which starts with riders on the underground railway reacting to the names of the stops, reminded me of the way a certain dedicated New Yorker of my acquaintance will elaborate on "the great American metropolis" subway stop by subway stop. London and New York: cities of the mind ...

PL OK! :thumbs:
Or, there is the old Kingston Trio song about the M.T.A. , the Boston Subway now better known just as "The T," about Charlie the man who never returned. Even today, the subway passes are called Charlie Cards. Been on the T often, but it really doesn't have a circle loop, like the ones I've ridden in Seoul and Tokyo where one really could ride in a circle all day. The Japanese will push people into the packed trains. :wink: But, I'll have to admit there is a certain romance to "The Tube" in London since so many of the stops, like Paddington Station, have found their way into lore. Also thinking of the Chronicles of Narnia. But, the Londoners are very helpful.

Thanks for the PL and kind words.

https://genius.com/The-kingston-trio-mta-lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0
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Post by niobium »

I have made a reupload of mental and pedagogical tests. the pronunciation took a little to get used to, since all habits die hard
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niobium wrote: March 29th, 2024, 3:55 pm I have made a reupload of mental and pedagogical tests. the pronunciation took a little to get used to, since all habits die hard
Hi Niobium, Thanks very much for taking the time and making the effort to re-record your selection with the changes I requested! You did a great job this time around! :D Your recording is PL Ok! :thumbs:
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Post by PeeWeeVO007 »

Please review my upload on the Baltimore Bridge reading

duration 13:10

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_baltimorebridgecollapse_dw_128kb.mp3

Thanks
don
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PeeWeeVO007 wrote: April 3rd, 2024, 10:28 am Please review my upload on the Baltimore Bridge reading

duration 13:10

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_baltimorebridgecollapse_dw_128kb.mp3

Thanks
don
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12619


Hi Don, Welcome to the Short Nonfiction Collection! :D Thank you for this timely selection with information about the collapse of the Baltimore Bridge. What I found of particular interest was the discussion about funding issues involved in rebuilding the bridge.

You read the selection very well. There was just one tiny slip, which needs to be fixed. It occurs at 8:07, where the text reads that the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has 12 to 24 months to to fully investigate the incident. You accidentally said "12 to 14 months." This should be an easy cut and paste. When you let us know, this has been fixed, your contribution with be pl ok.

Thanks for contributing to vol. 103!
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Post by PeeWeeVO007 »

snc03 Baltimore Bridge reading corrected (12-24 Months)

Duration remains 13:10

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_baltimorebridgecollapse_dw_128kb.mp3

Thank you for your help
don
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PeeWeeVO007 wrote: April 4th, 2024, 1:35 pm snc03 Baltimore Bridge reading corrected (12-24 Months)

Duration remains 13:10

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_baltimorebridgecollapse_dw_128kb.mp3

Thank you for your help
don
Don, Thanks for the quick fix! :) Your recording is now PL OK! :thumbs:
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Post by PeeWeeVO007 »

Please review for approval my reading of the CRS report on Cubas and the U.S. overview.

Duration 15:55.5

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_uscubaoverview_meyerklein_dw_128kb_.mp3

Thank you
don
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