COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 102 - jo

[lightcrystal]

I have done the PL. It is PL OK. But I am being denied permission to access the MW.
Note that as a reader and someone who is a DPL for another project, I already have a password for access that should work.

[Sue Anderson]

I have done the PL. It is PL OK. But I am being denied permission to access the MW.
Note that as a reader and someone who is a DPL for another project, I already have a password for access that should work.

Hi Lightcrystal, Thanks for the PL! The way access to the MW works is that it is specific to each separate project; being a BC, or DPL for one project doesn't translate to any other project. (i.e., the only people with administrative access to the Short Nonfiction Collection are Jo (as MC) and myself (as BC & DPL) However, no matter, I'm happy to mark my selection PL OK, now that you've PL'd it. And thank you again for PLing!!! Much appreciated. You'll see the moth on the cover for vol. 102!

[lightcrystal]

I have done the PL. It is PL OK. But I am being denied permission to access the MW.
Note that as a reader and someone who is a DPL for another project, I already have a password for access that should work.

Hi Lightcrystal, Thanks for the PL! The way access to the MW works is that it is specific to each separate project; being a BC, or DPL for one project doesn't translate to any other project. (i.e., the only people with administrative access to the Short Nonfiction Collection are Jo (as MC) and myself (as BC & DPL) However, no matter, I'm happy to mark my selection PL OK, now that you've PL'd it. And thank you again for PLing!!! Much appreciated. You'll see the moth on the cover for vol. 102!

Good to know! I checked the title name, Checker etc as well as the actual text. PL OK!

[Sue Anderson]

First submission!

Attractive Labor
Charles Fourier
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_attractivelabor_fourier_af_128kb.mp3

https://archive.org/details/selectionsfromw00fourgoog/page/n7/mode/1up?view=theater (p.163)
13:34
Avonlea Fisher

Hi Avonlea, Welcome to LibriVox and to the Short Nonfiction Collection! Your first contribution to LibriVox is well read and PL OK! Fourier has some good ideas in this essay, but getting up at 3:30 a.m., and working from 4 a.m. until 8 p.m., even with variety, doesn't sound particularly realistic (to me anyway).

Would you please tell me how you want your name listed in the catalog? Some people use their full name ( in your case Avonlea Fisher) in the catalog; others want only their forum name used, or another name entirely. As soon as I hear back from you on this, I'll enter your forum name in the Magic Window (MW) for this volume of the Short Nonfiction Collection (SNF).

[karlbarks]

Thank you! And haha, I had the same thought--I'd need my sacred 7+ hours of sleep, and free time in the evening, no matter how engaging the workday is
Please do feel free to use my full name in the catalog!

[Sue Anderson]

Thank you! And haha, I had the same thought--I'd need my sacred 7+ hours of sleep, and free time in the evening, no matter how engaging the workday is
Please do feel free to use my full name in the catalog!

Avonlea, Thanks for your quick reply. You're now in the catalog!

[karlbarks]

Here's another short nonfiction submission!

Jealousy: Causes and a Possible Cure
Emma Goldman (1869–1940)
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_jealousycausesandapossiblecure_goldman_af_128kb.mp3

https://pressbooks.pub/sapientia/chapter/jealousy-causes-and-a-possible-cure/

14:39

[Sue Anderson]

Here's another short nonfiction submission!

Jealousy: Causes and a Possible Cure
Emma Goldman (1869–1940)
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_jealousycausesandapossiblecure_goldman_af_128kb.mp3

https://pressbooks.pub/sapientia/chapter/jealousy-causes-and-a-possible-cure/

14:39

Hi Avonlea,

Thank you for this potential second submission to the Short Nonfiction Collection. Since you are just starting out recording for the SNF, it is probably a good time to discuss Public Domain and your sources.

As you are aware, LibriVox accepts only recordings that are traceable back to print published texts that are clearly in the Public Domain. As of this year, 2024, that means a book, magazine, pamphlet, etc. printed for publication prior to 1929.

With the advent of the internet have come transcriptions (copied texts). Some transcriptions come from PD published works -- and then there are transcriptions that have "slid under the fence and onto the internet" so to speak -- that come from works NOT in the public domain.

The Short Nonfiction Collection recommends that readers DO NOT use transcriptions as sources. We ask that, if at all possible, readers trace their potential reads back to a original source, which can be verified PD.

The source you give for Emma Goldman's comments on "jealousy" is an on-line transcription. The Pressbooks web site asserts that this selection is in the public domain. But is it really PD? Sadly, I do not think it is.

"Jealousy--Its Cause and Possible Cure" was a lecture Emma Goldman presented in San Francisco on July 8, 1915. According to a review of the speech in Goldman's radical magazine Mother Earth, "Jealousy" set eyes blinking and mouth pursing." https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uva.x004198269&seq=313&q1=jealousy

To the best of my knowledge, the text of Goldman's speech did not appear in print until it was included in the book "Red Emma Speaks; Selected Writings and Speeches," first published in 1972 and available to BORROW from the Internet archive: https://archive.org/details/redemmaspeakssel0000gold/page/23/mode/1up. In the introduction to Red Emma, Alix Shulman states "most of the selections in this volume have never before been available in book form, and four of them, taken from drafts of speeches in the New York Public Library and slightly edited, have never before been published." I am guessing that "Jealousy" is one of those speeches, because another on-line transcription (Anarchy Archives) credits the manuscript division of the New York Public Library as a source: http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/goldman/jealousy.html

So--following my own trail back from transcription to original source, my conclusion is that Goldman's "Jealousy" speech is NOT PD, and I cannot accept it for the SNF.

There are many clearly PD sources if you want to read something by Emma Goldman, I would suggest looking at the selection of her works here: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Search/Home?lookfor=emma+goldman&searchtype=all&ft=ft&setft=true. You will find her 1911 collection of essays "Anarchism and Other Essays," many pamphlets, as well as copies of her magazine Mother Earth (which looked particularly interesting to me).

With best wishes,

[Sue Anderson]

PM to niobium re: edits.

[niobium]

ethics and the weather by Edwin Grant Dexter
https://archive.org/details/jstor-2376164/mode/2up
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_ethicsandtheweather_dexter_lh_128kb.mp3
00:25:55

High Grade Men: In College And Out by Edwin Grant Dexter
https://archive.org/details/highgrademeninco00dext
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_highgrademenincollegeandout_dexter_lh_128kb.mp3
00:18:24

Hi Niobium, Thank you for these two scholarly articles by Edwin Grant Dexter, which complement Dexter's monograph "Weather Influences," which I see you just completed for the LibriVox catalog! https://librivox.org/weather-influences-by-edwin-grant-dexter/

I found Dexter's "High Grade Men: In College & Out" of particular interest, because it shows that the debate over the value of a "liberal college education" for success in later life was already raging in 1903, when Dexter's study was published.

There are a few edits which need attention:

Ethics and the Weather:

4:49-4:57, page 483,
Text reads: "The purpose of this paper, then, is not so much to demonstrate THAT such an influence is as WHAT it is, both qualitatively and quantitatively." You left out the word "as," which changes the meaning of the sentence. If Dexter had put a comma after "influence is," it would have helped. By emphasizing the italicized words, his meaning comes clearer.

15:03, page 488, You left out the subject heading
"Wind"

16:23, page 488 In the sentence just before the heading "Character of the Day and Precipitation" which reads "He did not refer these fluctuations to different conditions of the wind ... the debilitating influence of a vitiated atmosphere not properly circulated by the wind." Please check the pronunciation of "vitiated." https://translate.google.com/details?sl=auto&tl=en&text=vitiated&op=translate

23:23, page 491, "The clear, dry, bracing days of May and June, the very ones which to a man mentally and physically sound ..."
You left out word "sound"

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High-Grade College Men

9:20, page 134 "The next column of the table (d) shows the percentage of such for each college, which percentages form one term of a comparison." You said "which percentages form the relation of all the names in Who's Who." You misread this, then skipped all the material at the bottom of page 134.

16:29 "of baccalaureate life" Please check pronunciation of "baccalaureate" https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=baccalaureate&op=translate

When these edits are corrected, your readings will be pl ok. PLEASE GIVE ME THE TIMINGS OF ALL YOUR EDITS to facilitate my Pling. Thank you.

both corrected versions are reuploaded

[Sue Anderson]

both corrected versions are reuploaded

Thanks, Niobium! Your readings are now PL OK!

[Grothmann]

Good Evening:

U.S. Supreme Court
Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927)
Decided May 2, 1927
Read by Dale Grothmann
Time 2:23

Audio at: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_buckvsbell_supremecourt_dg_128kb.mp3

Text at: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/274/200/

"Three generations of imbeciles are enough." Justice Holmes.

Dale

[Sue Anderson]

Good Evening:

U.S. Supreme Court
Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927)
Decided May 2, 1927
Read by Dale Grothmann
Time 2:23

Audio at: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_buckvsbell_supremecourt_dg_128kb.mp3

Text at: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/274/200/

"Three generations of imbeciles are enough." Justice Holmes.

Dale

Good morning, Dale, Thank you for your contribution to vol. 102! The textual reading per se is pl ok. However, you forgot to include a title for the selection and the LibriVox "in the public domain" statement at the beginning of your read. Your selection highlights a core paragraph in Buck vs. Bell (which, in 1927, sanctioned the right of state courts to force compulsory sterilization upon inmates of public institutions deemed by the state to be "feeble minded" or "mentally defective." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

A hundred years later, the debates surrounding a state's right to restrict abortion give us reason to revisit Buck vs. Bell. Since you covered Buck vs. Bell in detail in SNF084 (https://librivox.org/short-nonfiction-collection-vol-084-by-various/), I thought that this focused paragraph should have a specific title, which would point to the crux of Justice Holmes' thinking.

"Three generations of imbeciles are enough," are Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr's actual words. If you want those words as the title of your selection, it's ok by me; however, I am suggesting something a bit less inflamatory in the MW.

[Grothmann]

Sorry about that, Sue"

In my haste, I grabbed the wrong file. Here i the entire "Buck vs Bell"

Audio at: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_buckvsbell_supremecourt_dg_128kb.mp3

Text at:https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/274/200/

It is now a longer lip..Time is 8:27

Thank you for catching that. I wanted the entire opinion of Justice Holmes (The great liberal Justice).

Dale

[Sue Anderson]

Sorry about that, Sue"

In my haste, I grabbed the wrong file. Here i the entire "Buck vs Bell"

Audio at: https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf102_buckvsbell_supremecourt_dg_128kb.mp3

Text at:https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/274/200/

It is now a longer lip..Time is 8:27

Thank you for catching that. I wanted the entire opinion of Justice Holmes (The great liberal Justice).

Dale

That's, ok, Dale. The long version is PL OK!