Amurath to Amurath, by Gertrude Bell - lt

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Owlivia
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PaulWelford wrote: September 19th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Owlivia wrote: September 19th, 2023, 4:56 pm Section 2
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amarathtoamarath_02_bell_128kb.mp3
39:26.43

There is every possibility that I have mangled the Arabic names beyond recognition. :(
Only a few pronunciations were discoverable online.
Corrections welcomed.

best,
Hi Deborah
Beautiful reading overall of an, at times, beautifully written chapter.

You definitely haven’t mangled anything beyond recognition. Most of the names and some Arabic words could be improved in their pronunciation but a) you have a lot of leeway as there are lots of Arabic dialects b) I’m no expert but have lived in Arabia for over eight years so have picked up a lot c) it depends what standard you want to set yourself. If the standard is English speaker who isn’t quite right but is still understandable (standard PL) then you’ve passed already. If you want to be English speaker who more or less matches the way Arabic speakers would pronounce these words I can send you an audio file which will both correct these and stand you in good stead for any future passages as many of the improvements would be easy to apply to other words. However I would hesitate to re-record these as, if you’re like me, your voice never sounds the same when you come back to re-do a specific word and I’m therefore tempted to re-do whole sentences or sections and they’re not really bad enough to warrant that. Totally up to you. Happy to help either way.

Paul
Hi, Paul, and thanks; I’d be delighted for some pronunciation suggestions - I still have Part 2 of this chapter to go. Good caution, too, about repairs to existing text: it can be dicey to get it right. If there are names or words that are going to show up in Part 2, I’ll make those corrections - does that sound ok? And I’m sure your coaching will be excellent. :D
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Owlivia wrote: September 19th, 2023, 9:52 pm
Hi, Paul, and thanks; I’d be delighted for some pronunciation suggestions - I still have Part 2 of this chapter to go. Good caution, too, about repairs to existing text: it can be dicey to get it right. If there are names or words that are going to show up in Part 2, I’ll make those corrections - does that sound ok? And I’m sure your coaching will be excellent. :D
Cool. I've sent you a PM written note for now. Can't do audio just now as I have a workman in the house making too much noise. I think you only need the audio for a fraction of the notes anyway so hoep it will be useful for now.
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Also, Lynnet - I realized that, for Section 2, I misspelled Amurath both times in the file name.
:oops: :roll:
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Owlivia wrote: October 17th, 2023, 8:52 pm Section 3 - at long last!
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:26.95
Thanks, and not to worry… as long as I remember to “edit all” :lol:
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Owlivia wrote: October 17th, 2023, 8:52 pm Section 3 - at long last!
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:26.95
Thanks - it seemed good Arabic pronunciation generally, although I’ve only done Standard PL (as required), not read along.

One PL note is that you have two repeated sentences. One at 29:31 and another at 29:37.

Otherwise good.
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PaulWelford wrote: October 18th, 2023, 4:22 pm
Owlivia wrote: October 17th, 2023, 8:52 pm Section 3 - at long last!
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:26.95
Thanks - it seemed good Arabic pronunciation generally, although I’ve only done Standard PL (as required), not read along.

One PL note is that you have two repeated sentences. One at 29:31 and another at 29:37.

Otherwise good.
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:21.93

Final of Section 3 with corrections. Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your PLing!
best,
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Owlivia wrote: October 27th, 2023, 8:19 pm
PaulWelford wrote: October 18th, 2023, 4:22 pm
Owlivia wrote: October 17th, 2023, 8:52 pm Section 3 - at long last!
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:26.95
Thanks - it seemed good Arabic pronunciation generally, although I’ve only done Standard PL (as required), not read along.

One PL note is that you have two repeated sentences. One at 29:31 and another at 29:37.

Otherwise good.
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_03_bell_128kb.mp3
44:21.93

Final of Section 3 with corrections. Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your PLing!
best,
No worries. My pleasure! PL OK
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May I have another couple of weeks for section 1?

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Kazbek wrote: November 2nd, 2023, 10:28 pm May I have another couple of weeks for section 1?

Michael
Of course
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Hi! May I please have 4 and 5?
~Channeling my inner condiment while I KETCHUP (thanks for your patience)~

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I need a bit more time for section 1, while my voice recovers from a cold.

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Cbteddy wrote: November 16th, 2023, 6:39 pm Hi! May I please have 4 and 5?
Sure
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Kazbek wrote: November 17th, 2023, 11:48 pm I need a bit more time for section 1, while my voice recovers from a cold.

Michael
Extension til the end of the year.
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Hello! Here are sections 4 and 5. I'm not sure about the intros since I split it in two (should it be said as part 1 and part 2?), so please let me know if anything should be fixed. I also did my best with all the Arab names.

4 (37:11)
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_04_bell_128kb.mp3

5 (40:38)
https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/amurathtoamurath_05_bell_128kb.mp3
~Channeling my inner condiment while I KETCHUP (thanks for your patience)~

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