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Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon

Posted: August 16th, 2010, 9:14 am
by Nerdanel
Hello,

I'd like to read _Last and First Men_ by Olaf Stapledon, which was published in 1930. Is that in the public domain?

Thank you!
Nerdanel

Posted: August 16th, 2010, 12:48 pm
by Cori
It's in the public domain in some countries, including Australia (it's included on the Project Gutenberg Australia website) but not in the US, where all our files are hosted. So, I'm afraid you can't record it for us until 2026 (tho' we'll welcome it enthusiastically then!)

Gutenberg has lots of other sci fi, some published long after the usual 1923 copyright cut-off, which you might like to take a look at ... we have a popular Short Sci-Fi Story collection which would appreciate your contributions -- a great starting point for recording here!

Under the Volcano

Posted: August 20th, 2010, 7:53 pm
by billybudd
I assume that Malcolm Lowry's Under the Volcano is still under copyright, as it was published in 1944 and probably (although I haven't been able to confirm) renewed in the 70's. Any confirmation of this would be really helpful, though - it would be great if it turns out that it is available!

Posted: August 20th, 2010, 8:11 pm
by chocoholic
Yes, according to the Stanford Copyright Renewal Database, the copyright for Under the Volcano was renewed in 1974.

Posted: August 20th, 2010, 9:08 pm
by billybudd
Thanks!

Posted: September 5th, 2010, 8:02 pm
by cglasgow3x
1984 by George Orwell, I thought that book was amazing because the year it was published he saw what we are going through now. I didn't know he died that soon after it was published. I am aware that after an artist dies the copywrite only extists for a period of time, and I thought that time frame was about 50 - 75 years after death, but I'm getting this information from when I graduated from art school in 1986 so things may have changed since then.

Posted: September 5th, 2010, 8:22 pm
by annise
USA copyright is 95 years after the authors death and he died in 1950. The law has been changed to 95 years at some stage so books before 1923 are PD , but no new ones will become available till 2019

So

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 1:36 am
by RuthieG
95 years after publication, actually, Anne, but I imagine this guy is a spammer anyway so it doesn't matter. 1984 is the first one mentioned on the list in this thread, so he is also quite a lazy spammer.

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 2:53 am
by annise
A very long wait till he and his translations are PD I am afraid

Anne

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 2:54 am
by RuthieG
;) Philippines.

What about technical works under GFDL

Posted: September 17th, 2010, 8:00 am
by cragun47
I'm interested in voicing technical documents. Of course most are not in public domain. However there are a large number under GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License

As I understand it, anyone can make derivative works, but must include the GFDL license as part.

Have there been any rulings on these documents?

Re: What about technical works under GFDL

Posted: September 17th, 2010, 8:10 am
by TriciaG
cragun47 wrote:I'm interested in voicing technical documents. Of course most are not in public domain. However there are a large number under GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License

As I understand it, anyone can make derivative works, but must include the GFDL license as part.[/url]
This wouldn't work here on LibriVox, because we have NO control over the derivative works. You could read them and upload them to Archive.org yourself, if you wanted to do so. (I just tried to get on archive.org to see what their licensing options are, but I am getting an error. Argh!)

Re: Books that aren't in the Public Domain (and why)

Posted: November 14th, 2010, 5:26 am
by sallymc
Hi Cori
I see that The Petticoat Commando by Johanna Brandt is being read as a solo, yet the authoress only died in 1964. (18 November 1876 - 13 January 1964)
I battle to find good South African books to read for Librivox as there is so little available in PD. Howcome this one is allowed, even though the date of death is so recent?
Yours
Sallymc

Re: Books that aren't in the Public Domain (and why)

Posted: November 14th, 2010, 5:56 am
by Cori
The US has a rule that anything published before 1923 is in the public domain in the US, and the date of death doesn't affect that at all. I don't know of any other countries that have a similar rule -- they all work simply from the date of death. But for those of us outside the US, we have to conform to both US and local copyright laws (to stay perfectly legal, anyway.) Because The Petticoat Commando was published in 1913, it's fallen out of copyright in the US, but is still in copyright in most other countries, because of the date of death.

I know it's really unfair ... it's the same for all the public domain books here, written by authors who died before 1940, but which we can't record because they were published too late for the US cutoff.

Re: Books that aren't in the Public Domain (and why)

Posted: December 23rd, 2010, 3:32 pm
by tyciol
I hope this isn't overly nosy, but I am curious, would it be possible to make sister sites to LibriVox which are centered in other nations, such as Canada, where the copyrights have already expired?

This whole rule of death thing is kind of depressing. Like on one hand, perhaps it motivates authors to stay alive longer so their copyrights last longer, but I am doubtful as to the impact of that. Moreso I am worried that it may motivate people to not care for the longevity of authors in the interest of making their works available earlier to the public, especially if the author has ceased publishing new material. That's why an expiry based on date of first publication versus date of death would be better.