~[Italiano] Le Rime di Guido Cavalcanti - kaz

[Kitty]

Section 73 corrected:
https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_073_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3

and PL ok now, thanks

Sonia

[Iunta4Ios]

S54
0:54 sento "che nullo" invece di "né nullo"



Section 54 has not been reuploaded yet ? It's not marked as ready for Spot PL in the MW.

thanks

Sonia

I don't know what happened with section 54, were the start was wrong.
I reloaded it again , hoping that now it is OK.
https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_054_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
(1:18)
Pier

[Kitty]

S54
0:54 sento "che nullo" invece di "né nullo"

Section 54 has not been reuploaded yet ? It's not marked as ready for Spot PL in the MW.

I don't know what happened with section 54, were the start was wrong.
I reloaded it again , hoping that now it is OK.
https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_054_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3

well no, the start was not wrong, only that one line that Michael mentioned at 0:54. I checked it now and it seems to be correct

So section 54 is also PL ok. We're up to date.

Thanks

Sonia

[Kitty]

Just one small remark concerning once again the accentuation:
in the last line "far perconoscer quel ch'à lui sia tale." the accent is " perconòscer". It seems yo me you read "perconoscér"

I corrected "far perconoscer", the rest stays the same

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_080_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:15 min.

Sonia

[Kitty]

I could also try the next one 81. Guido Orlandi rispose con il sonetto: A suon di trombe anzi che di corno, - Guido Orlandi, which is also short

Sonia

[Iunta4Ios]

Just one small remark concerning once again the accentuation:
in the last line "far perconoscer quel ch'à lui sia tale." the accent is " perconòscer". It seems yo me you read "perconoscér"

I corrected "far perconoscer", the rest stays the same

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_080_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:15 min.

Sonia

Ottimo, PL O.K.
Grazie per l'aiuto nell'avanzamento di questo progetto.
Pier

[Kitty]

Grazie per l'aiuto nell'avanzamento di questo progetto.

if you think I'm good enough for it.

Have you seen my claim ? viewtopic.php?p=2331912#p2331912

Sonia

[Iunta4Ios]

I could also try the next one 81. Guido Orlandi rispose con il sonetto: A suon di trombe anzi che di corno, - Guido Orlandi, which is also short

Sonia

Fine! Sorry I didn't see your claim before.
Pier

[Kitty]

and I already recorded it

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_081_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:14 min.

Awaiting your corrections. And now it's time for food.

Sonia

[Iunta4Ios]

and I already recorded it

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_081_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:14 min.

Awaiting your corrections. And now it's time for food.

Sonia

All very well once more, whit just here again just a slight problem on the accent , in the first tercet of a sonnet, second line at 47 s:
“per quella di cui spesso mi sovene”: sovéne, the accent is on the first e, also in accordance with the rhyme with s’avene; similarly at 57 s in the last tercet, “sostène”, the accent should be on the e.

Apart this I am not fully sure, but I think the correct pronunciation of Jesu at 41 s should be here “Ièsu” in a way like the Latin “Jesus” and not yet the later version of modern Italian “Gesù”.
Pier

[Kitty]

All very well once more, whit just here again just a slight problem on the accent , in the first tercet of a sonnet, second line at 47 s:
“per quella di cui spesso mi sovene”: sovéne, the accent is on the first e, also in accordance with the rhyme with s’avene; similarly at 57 s in the last tercet, “sostène”, the accent should be on the e.
Apart this I am not fully sure, but I think the correct pronunciation of Jesu at 41 s should be here “Ièsu” in a way like the Latin “Jesus” and not yet the later version of modern Italian “Gesù”.

oops that was a lot that comes from checking a pronunciation on google translate, I checked sostene and sovene and they stressed on the first syllable. I also found it weird but I went with it.

Now corrected (only those bits):

> at 0:41: "Jesu ne"
> at 0:45: "di cui spesso me sovene"
> at 0:54: "come s'avene"

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_081_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:15 min.

thank you

Sonia

[Kitty]

I could try 82 as well: Sonetto, Amore e monna Lagia e Guido ed io

Sonia

[Iunta4Ios]

I could try 82 as well: Sonetto, Amore e monna Lagia e Guido ed io

Sonia

Thanks Sonia.Assigned.
Pier

[Iunta4Ios]

that comes from checking a pronunciation on google translate, I checked sostene and sovene and they stressed on the first syllable. I also found it weird but I went with it.

Now corrected (only those bits):

> at 0:41: "Jesu ne"
> at 0:45: "di cui spesso me sovene"
> at 0:54: "come s'avene"

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_081_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:15 min.

thank you

Sonia

PL.O.K.
In fact it Is always better for us to take with some precautions the internet advise, especially with archaic words which can often have more than one meaning : “Sostene” in Italian can be the Christian name “Sòstene”, but here is an archaic form of “sostiène”.
Sovene :The adverb appears sometime in old Italian with the meaning of " often ", " frequently ", and always occurs in poetry as a substitute for the more modern "sovente" and the accent in that case is sòvene.
But here it stands for the verb "sovviène", and the accent is different.
Pier

[Kitty]

I have two questions for this sonnet.

> is the author Cavalcanti here again ?
> "monna" is that an abbreviation for "madonna" ? I'm not sure I pronounced the sentence correctly, if not...

well you correct me if anything is wrong

https://librivox.org/uploads/kazbek/rime_082_cavalcanti_128kb.mp3
Recording time: 1:13 min.

have a good evening still

Sonia