COMPLETE: Short Nonfiction Collection, Vol. 103 - jo

[Sue Anderson]

Epping Forest lies to the north east of London and is classed as ancient woodland and its existence can be traced back to Neolithic times.

My recording covers some of the forest’s long history and how it was saved (after massive protests) from total destruction in the 19th century and kept as a public amenity in perpetuity.

Title of the work: Guide To Epping Forest (1896)

Author of the work: Ernest Richard Suffling (1855-1911)

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_guideeppingforest_suffling_scc_128kb.mp3

Source: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044018716597&seq=29

24:02

Further info on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epping_Forest

Hope you can use it.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve, Thanks for this history of Epping Forest! I was surprised to read about the amount of 19th century public activism involved is saving these woods from development. "One ardent lover of nature in her green garb took down took down three omnibuses laden with navvies, who, with the help of onlookers, tore down piles of fencing and burnt it in huge bonfires." Ernest Richard Suffling

PL OK!

[BrotherMichael]

The Meaning of Masonry

Joseph Fort Newton

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_meaningofmasonry_newton_bm_128kb.mp3

https://archive.org/details/cu31924030277028/page/n15/mode/2up

39m39s

[Sue Anderson]

The Meaning of Masonry

Joseph Fort Newton

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_meaningofmasonry_newton_bm_128kb.mp3

https://archive.org/details/cu31924030277028/page/n15/mode/2up

39m39s

Hi Brother Michael,

Thanks for this exposition on the uplifting ideals of Masonry as expounded by Joseph Fort Newton (1880-1950). the Rev. Newton is a new author for the LibriVox catalog. Thanks for that! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fort_Newton

I'm marking your reading PL OK! In general, your recording made for easy listening. It was clearly read and had nice pacing.

I don't know how particular you are about incidentals, but there are two very small slips you might want to fix, though this is not obligatory. One occurs on page 14, at 20.23, were you misread the word "conscience" as "conscious." ("the promptings of right reason, the voice of conscience, and the vision of the soul." )

The other slip is on page 17, at 27:25, where you might want to check the pronunciation of the word "effete." ("Against those who would fetter thought in order to perpetuate an effete authority...") See: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/effete

Thank you for your second contribution to volume 103!

[BrotherMichael]

Thanks for the feedback. I will work to get those corrected. My initial attempts are seemingly making it worse (way to clear that a correction was made), but I will use it as a learning experience and get it sounding more smooth and re-upload it.

[Rapunzelina]

Hi Sue!

I have here a short sketch of the life of John Opie, that's Mrs Opie(Amelia Opie)'s husband! I was not sure about what to mention as author, did not find a name, so I am open to your advice. I've recorded it without a mention, but I could make it "by Anonymous" or "from The Belfast Monthly Magazine", or maybe you can see the name somewhere? maybe it's the Magazine's editor?

Sketch of the Life of John Opie, A.R.
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/snf103_sketchoflifeofjohnopie_r_128kb.mp3
16:16

Source from jstor: https://archive.org/details/jstor-30074323/page/n1/mode/2up
or from the complete Belfast Monthly Magazine, if you prefer: https://archive.org/details/sim_belfast-monthly-magazine_1808-12-31_1_5/page/364/mode/2up

Thank you!

[Sue Anderson]

Hi Rapunzelina,

Thanks very much for this biographical sketch of John Opie! I wasn't familiar with his portraiture, but I was definitely impressed after looking at some of his paintings via the internet. I particularly liked the somewhat brooding (?) self portrait he did of himself in 1789 at age 28! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Opie

I think we will go with "anonymous" as the author. You don't need to change the intro, which is fine as is.

I noticed in reading the Wikipedia article on Opie, that his wife Amelia, had also penned a sketch of her husband, which is included with the published lectures on painting he gave at the Royal Academy of Arts. https://archive.org/details/lecturesonpainti00opie/page/n5/mode/1up?view=theater. I found Amelia's account lively and candid, with interesting comments on her husband's opinion of accomplished women. This bio might make a good addition to the LibriVox catalog too.

Thanks for contributing to vol. 103! Your reading is PL OK!

[lkirk]

Hello Sue,

I am recording a speech by Lincoln for the last section of this volume and I have a question, if I may. There are many interjections of applause, etc. in the speech and they are in brackets but I thought saying bracket applause end bracket sounded possibly confusing so I have been using the term parentheses instead which I thought might be more understandable to the listener. Is this acceptable? I know they are not exactly the same. I assume that either bracket or parentheses needs to be at the beginning and end of these interjections. Thanks for any information about this. I may have a lot of correcting to do if it isn't acceptable to make this slight change!

lkirk

[lkirk]

It would be nice if one didn't have to use either bracket or parentheses at the beginning and end of the term applause because it does interfere with the flow but I assume it is always necessary, is that right?

[Sue Anderson]

It would be nice if one didn't have to use either bracket or parentheses at the beginning and end of the term applause because it does interfere with the flow but I assume it is always necessary, is that right?

Hi lkirk, Welcome to the Nonfiction Collection! Could you please post here a link to the Lincoln speech you are recording so I can take a look at how the "applause" is indicated in the text? Maybe we can find a way to indicate the applause that isn't so intrusive... Thanks!

[lkirk]

Thank you! Here is the link to the Lincoln speech and it would be nice if we could find away around this issue so the flow won't be so affected. There are a lot of interjections but they are important too in understanding the response to the speech.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/61966

lkirk

[Sue Anderson]

Thank you! Here is the link to the Lincoln speech and it would be nice if we could find away around this issue so the flow won't be so affected. There are a lot of interjections but they are important too in understanding the response to the speech.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/61966

lkirk

Hi again lkirk, Thanks for providing the link to the text! This should be an invigorating read! I see from Wikipedia that the validity of Henry Clay Whitney's version of Lincoln's 1856 oration in Bloomington has been questioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%27s_Lost_Speech. I also see that Whitney includes many asides which are meant to invoke the mood of the crowd listening to the speech. These are separated by the brackets that you mention. ["Cries of "Platform!" "Take the platform!"] etc. etc.

I think that Whitney's "asides" read almost like stage directions, or are personal observances (true or not) by Whitney, meant to convey mood. For instance: [The last sentence was uttered in such an earnest, impressive, if not indeed tragic manner as to make a cold chill creep over me. Others gave a similar experience.]

These "asides" are so prevalent in the text that I agree with you, saying "brackets" or "parentheses" would become intrusive.

What I would suggest, instead, is that you indicate by a slight pause in speaking, perhaps by a slight change of tone, that "Applause" and similar interjections are Whitney's.

Please be sure to read all the introductory material included in the pamphlet--"a souvenir of the eleventh annual Lincoln dinner;" and the introductory paragraph which explains that "after a lapse of forty years" Mr. H.C. Whitney published his supposed transcription of the speech in McClure's Magazine.

Looking forward to your recording.

[lkirk]

Thanks very much, Sue! Yes, it is an invigorating read and even though the exact text may be questionable it seems that the speech itself was very influential so probably worthy of recording and including this in our collection. I also found it in another collection of Lincoln speeches on the Internet Archive. I just finished recording it and it is longer than I had anticipated but less than the maximum 60 minutes so hope that it will be ok. I did include the introductory material because that seemed essential in understanding how this publication came to be.
I'm very glad that we don't have to include bracket or parentheses information and your solution seems fine. It will make the text flow so much better. It should be ready for listening soon. Thanks again!
lkirk

[lkirk]

I was curious to learn more about the authenticity of the text and came across this on the Mclean County History site which gives more supportive background information in contrast to the Wikipedia article which does cast some doubt. I think Wikipedia even cites a Mclean County source as earlier casting doubt on the authenticity but they don't seem to be doing that now.

https://mchistory.org/digital-exhibits/abraham-lincoln-in-mclean-county/lincolns-lost-speech

I'm still editing the recording but hope to have it done in the next day or two. Thank you.

[Sue Anderson]

I was curious to learn more about the authenticity of the text and came across this on the Mclean County History site which gives more supportive background information in contrast to the Wikipedia article which does cast some doubt. I think Wikipedia even cites a Mclean County source as earlier casting doubt on the authenticity but they don't seem to be doing that now.

https://mchistory.org/digital-exhibits/abraham-lincoln-in-mclean-county/lincolns-lost-speech

I'm still editing the recording but hope to have it done in the next day or two. Thank you.

Thanks for this additional information from the McLean County Historical Museum! Believe it or not, my great great grandparents homesteaded in McLean County, Illinois in 1838 or 1839. The family farmed in the county until 1866, when they left for Kansas. Now I'm wondering if one of my distant relatives heard Lincoln's speech!!!

[lkirk]

What a coincidence that your family lived in that county and maybe they did hear the speech or at least they would probably have read about it in the newspapers. Always nice to discover these family connections to historical events!