How to view Gutenberg source images?

quartertone · Post by **quartertone** » April 7th, 2023, 5:59 pm

Does anyone know how I can see the original scans from which Gutenberg texts are OCR'd and transcribed? My current solo book has so many *actual/obvious* errors that I want to see where the error lies. Maybe the author did a poor job of proof-reading himself, maybe the editor overlooked things, maybe the scanned images were so mangled that it was difficult to discern, maybe the PGDP proof-readers missed something. In any case, I want to know before I go submitting all these "errors" to PGDP, since (i think) if they're in the original then they're technically not considered errors and won't be corrected.

Post by **TriciaG** » April 7th, 2023, 6:14 pm

Gutenberg doesn't store the source images. If the transcription shows the publisher and publication year, you might be able to search for it on the usual sites (Archive, Hathi, Google Books).

Or I think you can search for the publisher, etc. of the edition used here: https://inprogress.pglaf.org/

quartertone · Post by **quartertone** » April 7th, 2023, 8:54 pm

TriciaG wrote: ↑April 7th, 2023, 6:14 pm Gutenberg doesn't store the source images. If the transcription shows the publisher and publication year, you might be able to search for it on the usual sites (Archive, Hathi, Google Books).

Or I think you can search for the publisher, etc. of the edition used here: https://inprogress.pglaf.org/

Well I guess it's a fail for this title. Hathitrust doesn't have the title, and both Google Books and Archive are from the Gutenberg source.
My previous searches yielded similar results so I think the original is lost (or maybe in someone's private collection)
Oh well.

Post by **annise** » April 7th, 2023, 11:45 pm

If you google amazing stories magazine october 1948 there are a number of copies for sale price range seems to $25 to about $150. I know some members have brought things and scanned them.
Anne

Post by **TriciaG** » April 8th, 2023, 8:02 am

Amazing Stories, October 1948?
https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_v22n10_1948-10_cape1736/mode/2up

quartertone · Post by **quartertone** » April 8th, 2023, 9:02 am

TriciaG wrote: ↑April 8th, 2023, 8:02 am Amazing Stories, October 1948?
https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_v22n10_1948-10_cape1736/mode/2up

HA wow! Thanks for that. I should have though to search that way also! Next time, perhaps.

Anyway, on a cursory comparison of the scanned Amazing Stories version and the Gutenberg version, it looks like the errors are all source errors. Someone didn't do their job properly back in 1948. I think I can stop fretting over every syllable now. If I "word-perfect"ed this recording, I would sound like a nincompoop. (eg: "he had addressed his father with the authority of of a commander")

Post by **annise** » April 8th, 2023, 6:18 pm

Well you could also have said (eg: "he had addressed his father with the authority of (slight pause to think of a good thing to say) of a commander") where the italics are not read

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I thought when you said you'd searched Archive you'd have realised that you were looking for a magazine

Anne

silverquill · Post by **silverquill** » April 29th, 2023, 4:26 pm

At the top of GP pages there are credits give such as: Credits: Produced by Laura Natal Rodrigues at Free Literature (Images
generously made available by Hathi Trust.) Often Archive.org is mentioned, or a particular library. That can give you a clue to where to look if it is an online source.

Peter Why · Post by **Peter Why** » April 30th, 2023, 4:25 am

And, despite "word-perfect", I think you can still correct obvious errors; you could mention doing this in your summary, if you like.

Peter

Post by **knotyouraveragejo** » April 30th, 2023, 7:42 am

Yes, obvious typographical or OCR errors can be corrected. I do like to confirm with the scan if possible.