List of Early Science Fiction (PD and not yet in the catalog!)

Suggest and discuss books to read (all languages welcome!)
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flavo5000 wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:50 am Oh, I also found this one:
The Legion of Time/After the World Ends by Jack Williamson
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=osu.32435059969030&view=1up&seq=1

This feels like another one that could be tricky since it's a compilation of two previously copyrighted works.
The Legion of Time was first published as a serial in Astounding in 1938. That serial has a renewal. I didn't find an obvious renewal for After the World Ends, but it would be best to clear and work from the Marvel Science Stories February 1939 where it was first published. I don't think I have a copy.

Greg
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gweeks wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 2:53 pm
flavo5000 wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:50 am Oh, I also found this one:
The Legion of Time/After the World Ends by Jack Williamson
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=osu.32435059969030&view=1up&seq=1

This feels like another one that could be tricky since it's a compilation of two previously copyrighted works.
The Legion of Time was first published as a serial in Astounding in 1938. That serial has a renewal. I didn't find an obvious renewal for After the World Ends, but it would be best to clear and work from the Marvel Science Stories February 1939 where it was first published. I don't think I have a copy.

Greg
I understand you're looking at it from the point of view of submission to PG, but from the position of the work being cleared for recording for Librivox, After the World Ends should be ok, right?
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I hunted up an obituary for A. E. Van Vogt that included details about where he lived and when he moved to the U.S. and sent it to Greg Newby at Project Gutenberg. We can file clearances with PG for things first published in 1945 or later by A. E. Van Vogt. I'll see about working on the van Vogt clearance.

Greg

The Players of Null-A has a clean renewal on the first publication in Astounding Science Fiction and is still under copyright in the U.S.
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gweeks wrote: November 24th, 2022, 5:37 pm I hunted up an obituary for A. E. Van Vogt that included details about where he lived and when he moved to the U.S. and sent it to Greg Newby at Project Gutenberg. We can file clearances with PG for things first published in 1945 or later by A. E. Van Vogt. I'll see about working on the van Vogt clearance.

Greg
Good news!
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I have PG clearances for:

Title: The radium pool
Author1: Ed Earl Repp
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The incredible planet
Author1: John W. Campbell
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Drome
Author1: John Martin Leahy
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Pioneers of space
Author1: George Adamski
Status: Cleared OK

from the hathi sources listed earlier.

I have a PG clearance for:

Title: After world's end
Author1: Jack Williamson
Status: Cleared OK

from the original magazine publication. There is a copy of the original magazine at:

https://archive.org/details/Marvel_v01n03_1939-02/page/n3/mode/2up

From the Hathi sources:

Title: Mating center
Author1: Frank Belknap Long
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The Horror Expert
Author1: Frank Long
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Woman from another planet
Author1: Frank Belknap Long
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Knock three-one-two
Author1: Fredric Brown
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The sentinel stars
Author1: Louis Charbonneau
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Corpus earthling
Author1: Louis Charbonneau
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The starmen
Author1: Leigh Brackett
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The wonder stick
Author1: Stanton A. Coblentz
Status: Cleared OK

Title: When the birds fly south
Author1: Stanton A. Coblentz
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Scream at midnight
Author1: Joseph Payne Brennan
Status: Cleared OK

Title: Shuddering castle
Author1: Wilbur Fawley
Status: Cleared OK

Title: The red planet
Author1: Russ Winterbotham
Status: Cleared OK

From the Astounding March and April 1945. This should be recorded from the Astounding or the PG version and not a later book. I will be running this through pgdp.net to get it into PG. This is probably several months away. There are Astounding editor written bits that should not be recorded. These are the short introduction and the synopsis that are at the beginning of each serial part.

Title: Destiny times three
Author1: Fritz Leiber
Status: Cleared OK

Greg
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I cleaned the scans for some of the paperbacks I did clearances for above. The cleaned scans are at archive.org.

https://archive.org/details/woman-from-another-planet-frank-belknap-long
https://archive.org/details/the-mating-center-frank-belknap-long
https://archive.org/details/the-horror-expert-frank-belknap-long
https://archive.org/details/the-sentinel-stars-louis-charbonneau
https://archive.org/details/corpus-earthling-louis-charbonneau

I'll be running all of these that cleared (except Drome) through pgdp.net. Don't expect them any time soon in PG. I'm months backlogged there even before these hit.

Greg
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This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but is the STAINLESS STEEL RAT by Harry Harrison original story in Astounding SF 1957 in the public domain. He wrote this before expanding it into a book and then series.
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philchenevert wrote: December 9th, 2022, 7:44 am This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but is the STAINLESS STEEL RAT by Harry Harrison original story in Astounding SF 1957 in the public domain. He wrote this before expanding it into a book and then series.
Yes, as well as the 1961 book. I have a clearance on both and have prepped the scans. It's not loaded to pgdp.net yet. I don't think any of the later books are in the PD, but haven't checked them thoroughly.

Greg

Yes, all of the other Stainless Steel Rat stories are after 1963 and won't fall under the requirement to renew.
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gweeks wrote: December 9th, 2022, 8:27 am
philchenevert wrote: December 9th, 2022, 7:44 am This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but is the STAINLESS STEEL RAT by Harry Harrison original story in Astounding SF 1957 in the public domain. He wrote this before expanding it into a book and then series.
Yes, as well as the 1961 book. I have a clearance on both and have prepped the scans. It's not loaded to pgdp.net yet. I don't think any of the later books are in the PD, but haven't checked them thoroughly.

Greg
Greg, that is unexpectedly good news. You are always three steps ahead of me and I love the way you think. Image
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gweeks wrote: September 14th, 2022, 12:52 pm Gray Lensman is on its way now too. Probably a month or two still. It's not started P3 yet at PGDP.
Gray Lensman by E. E. Smith
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/69584

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gweeks wrote: December 20th, 2022, 4:09 am
gweeks wrote: September 14th, 2022, 12:52 pm Gray Lensman is on its way now too. Probably a month or two still. It's not started P3 yet at PGDP.
Gray Lensman by E. E. Smith
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/69584

Greg
It looks like Children of the Lens is in the P1 queue too!
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Btw, it looks like Dorment by E. Nesbit has been started as a solo, so that one can be removed from the OP. :)
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flavo5000 wrote: December 20th, 2022, 6:07 am
gweeks wrote: December 20th, 2022, 4:09 am
gweeks wrote: September 14th, 2022, 12:52 pm Gray Lensman is on its way now too. Probably a month or two still. It's not started P3 yet at PGDP.
Gray Lensman by E. E. Smith
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/69584

Greg
It looks like Children of the Lens is in the P1 queue too!
Yep, and Second Stage Lensmen is in F2.

Greg
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flavo5000 wrote: December 20th, 2022, 6:07 am
gweeks wrote: December 20th, 2022, 4:09 am
gweeks wrote: September 14th, 2022, 12:52 pm Gray Lensman is on its way now too. Probably a month or two still. It's not started P3 yet at PGDP.
Gray Lensman by E. E. Smith
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/69584

Greg
It looks like Children of the Lens is in the P1 queue too!
I got a notice that Gray Lensman was already released by Gutenberg. So I gleefully have started it as a solo. Great stuff. Second Stage Lensman and Children of the Lens will be out long before I finish this one but I am happy!. :thumbs:
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I thought I'd just bring to attention some newly PD serials/novellas from Weird Tales that were printed in 1927 that'd make for fun projects.

The Dark Chrysalis (1927) by Eli Coulter [25,868 word count]
Here we have, at last, the epic of the microbe-hunters—a three- part scientific thrill-tale about cancer
Part 1: https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N06192706/page/n28/mode/1up
Part 2: https://archive.org/details/Weird_Tales_v10n01_1927-07_sas/page/n114/mode/1up
Part 3: https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV10N02192708/page/n99/mode/1up

Explorers Into Infinity (1927) by Ray Cummings [25,171 word count]
A three-part interplanetary serial about a madcap adventure and a thrilling voyage through space
Part 1: https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N04192704/page/n6/mode/1up
Part 2: https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N05192705/page/n50/mode/1up
Part 3: https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N06192706/page/n94/mode/1up

The Dark Lore (1927) by Nictzin Dyalhis [12,368 word count]
A tale of the outer spaces and the lurid hells through which the soul of Lura Veyle was hurled
https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV10N04192710/page/n10/mode/1up

The City of Glass (1927) by Joel Martin Nichols, Jr. [16,412 word count]
A thrilling weird-scientific story of a race of Atlanteans in the African desert—and the Battle of the Fungi
https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N03192703/page/n5/mode/2up

THREE new ones from Edmond Hamilton!
The Atomic Conquerors (1927) [12,292 word count]
Up from an infra-universe hidden in a grain of sand poured a host of invaders bent on conquering the world
https://archive.org/details/Weird_Tales_v09n02_1927-02/page/n20/mode/1up

Evolution Island (1927) [10,926 word count]
Brilling looses a spawning horror on the world, threatening to wipe out all life, animal and human
https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV09N03192703/page/n49/mode/2up

The Moon Menace (1927) [12,540 word count]
A terrific prospect faced a darkened world, with the moon men its masters from pole to pole
https://archive.org/details/WeirdTalesV10N03192709/page/n24/mode/1up
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