[COMPLETE] The Chaos, by G.N. Trenité - jc

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Post by Jc » November 29th, 2008, 2:17 pm

The Chaos
by G.N. Trenite

This project is now complete and can be found here:
http://librivox.org/the-chaos-by-gerard-nolst-trenite/



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Each fortnight a poem is chosen to be recorded by as many LibriVox volunteers as possible!

Volunteers outside the USA: Gerard Nolst Trenité died in 1946. His work is still protected by copyright in places like Europe, where copyright is author's death plus 70 years.

This fortnight’s poem can be found here.
(This is my blog for LV, I made little notes for the pronunciation of some words)
or here: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Chaos

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Bit Rate: 128 kbps
Sample Rate: 44100 kHz

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Begin your reading with the abbreviated LibriVox disclaimer:
The Chaos, by Gerard Nolst Trenité, read for LibriVox.org by [your name].
[Add, if you wish, date, your location, and/or your personal url.]
Then read the poem:
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Susy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.

Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.

Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.

Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.

Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!
At the end of your reading, leave a space and then say:
End of poem. This recording is in the public domain.
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Artist: Gerard Nolst Trenite
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Last edited by Jc on December 23rd, 2008, 8:59 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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Post by TriciaG » November 29th, 2008, 5:53 pm

Is the author's last name pronounced Trehn-ee-TAY? How ironic it would be to butcher his name...

Oh, and we might want to note that gunwale is pronounced "gun·nel". :roll:

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Post by Jc » November 29th, 2008, 5:58 pm

Wikipedia doesn't know, I'd go with Tren-ee-TAY
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Post by TriciaG » November 29th, 2008, 6:01 pm

This one will be interesting with all sorts of different accents! Consider that some people say "aunt" like "ant," some like "awnt." Hey - even I fluctuate between both pronunciations, LOL!

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Post by aradlaw » November 29th, 2008, 6:56 pm

I still say it will take most of the fortnight to look up some of the more obscure words :P
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Post by Jc » November 29th, 2008, 7:21 pm

aradlaw wrote:I still say it will take most of the fortnight to look up some of the more obscure words :P
I know. I started making annotations here: http://jclvtxt.blogspot.com/2008/11/chaos-by-trenite-d-1946.html

Sometimes, I'll look at the words and try to figure out the difference. And then realize I've been pronouncing them wrongly all that time...
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Post by TriciaG » November 29th, 2008, 8:59 pm

It's hard to get a flow for this poem, but here's mine. I did amplify it, but if it sounds bad, I can re-record.

(6:04)
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/jc/chaos_trenite_tg.mp3

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Post by aradlaw » November 30th, 2008, 5:39 am

Well, that wasn't so bad :shock:
Many thanks Jc, for shortening this poem down from the original version :wink:
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/jc/chaos_trenite_dl.mp3 @ 6:23
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Post by Rowland » November 30th, 2008, 1:50 pm

Oh dear me,
This seems as great fun.
I think I will join you here and try to make something of it - whatever it will be.

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Post by Kaffen » December 1st, 2008, 8:27 am

I wonder if the author had to troll the dictionary. I'm familiar with "enfeoff", for instance, but have never seen "feoffer" before and I only assume they're related. (Off to dictionary to confirm -)

I've had to modify my thoughts on pronouncing one or two of these words. This old dog is gonna have to learn new tricks!

(Submission later, after much reflection....)

BTW - aradlaw's signature line is PERFECT for this poem! :lol:
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Post by Jc » December 1st, 2008, 9:43 am

I've checked some words in Merriam-Webster, and it sometimes gives alternate pronunciacions that kind-of defeats the purpose of this poem. But then, Merriam-Webster also says that nu-cu-ler is an acceptable alternate for nuclear...
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Post by Llewod » December 2nd, 2008, 4:46 pm

http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/jc/chaos_trenite_hjd.mp3

Hello
Please see above. Sorry for the gaps, I'm still getting used to audacity!
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Post by Kaffen » December 3rd, 2008, 10:41 am

Wow! Even with English-as-first-language speakers armed with dictionaries, there are at least five differences between any two of the renditions! Pity those people who have the sangfroid to take on English as a second language!

Anyway, I'll add my version to the pot. Just don't take too many potshots at it! :lol:

http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/jc/chaos_trenite_mfs.mp3

(6:40)
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Post by Jc » December 3rd, 2008, 5:04 pm

thanks! all in the box
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Post by Kaffen » December 4th, 2008, 7:39 am

I finally get it! As an American, I was simply nonplussed with the inclusion of "Arkansas" at the end of a line - where it supposedly rhymed with something. In my version, it drops with a thud.

Llewod, though, successfully rhymes it with "four" with her British accent (and both of course sound perfectly natural). Without knowing Fact One about Trenite, I'm guessing he was European and had a British accent in mind.

Now, note that all the renditions are perfectly understandable. Even though English pronunciation is hard, our ears attune to accents well and our minds descry the content without much trouble. Yay for the Brain! :9:
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