[group] Short Ghost and Horror Story Collection 024 -bart

jmoorehouse · Post by **jmoorehouse** » February 27th, 2014, 10:27 pm

Greetings, Lucretia. You are kind about my voice. Perhaps I'm in line for a new insight! I made the assumption that the copy on my shelf and the copy in the Gutenberg Library would be identical. After all, it's not a translation--the original is English. I would have no problem re-recording it using the Gutenberg text. I used my book merely to save paper! Thanks for this information. Fascinating! Please allow me to re-read, re-edit, and re-post. I do not resent any of it since this is my first foray and everything I've done so far has been a rich learning experience.

Any other feedback would be welcome: sound quality, background noise, edits--
I'm not asking you to keep listening, just given what you've listened to so far can you provide constructive feedback?
I'll be away from my recording room and equipment for several days but back by mid-March.
Jan M.

lubee930 · Post by **lubee930** » February 28th, 2014, 6:09 am

jmoorehouse wrote:Greetings, Lucretia. You are kind about my voice. Perhaps I'm in line for a new insight! I made the assumption that the copy on my shelf and the copy in the Gutenberg Library would be identical. After all, it's not a translation--the original is English. I would have no problem re-recording it using the Gutenberg text. I used my book merely to save paper! Thanks for this information. Fascinating! Please allow me to re-read, re-edit, and re-post. I do not resent any of it since this is my first foray and everything I've done so far has been a rich learning experience.
Any other feedback would be welcome: sound quality, background noise, edits--
I'm not asking you to keep listening, just given what you've listened to so far can you provide constructive feedback?
I'll be away from my recording room and equipment for several days but back by mid-March.
Jan M.

Oh, I am sorry, Jan--but you are not the first to encounter this problem, as you might guess. LibriVox could be challenged on the copyright status of this recording, and we would be forced to remove it or face legal action. And this has actually happened in the past on occasion as I understand it. So we must very careful about enforcing this rule.

Stories of this type can be included in newer copyrighted collections. New editions can perhaps add criticism or commentary or even "modernize" or otherwise change some of the wording and therefore claim a copyright. For example:

Project Gutenberg 1910 edition: "...the soundness of his nature was like pure paste under a delicate glaze."
Your recording: "...the soundess of his nature was like pure paste under a fine glaze."

Project Gutenberg 1910 edition: "...to turn back to our host with the absurd demand..."
Your recording: "...to turn back to our host with the joking demand..."

You are clearly an accomplished reader, so I didn't suppose that these were just slips on your part.

As for any other issues, all of your technical specs are on the mark, Jan. Volume is great, background noise is negligible. The pace is good with clear enunciation--easy to understand and pleasant to hear. The only thing that I would mention for your future efforts--we need lowercase letters in the file name--no caps.

Some people record from their computer screen, scrolling down as they go along. But I personally find it difficult to read from the computer, so I most often do print out the text when I record. I prefer to read from a hard copy. (But I do print on the back side of paper destined for the shredder anyway.) Please don't be discouraged, Jan. You did a great job on the recording. I will remove your file from the MW for now, but I do hope that you find time to submit it again if you wish. Let us know if you have any questions--and thank you again!

lubee930 · Post by **lubee930** » February 28th, 2014, 6:56 am

lubee930 wrote:
jmoorehouse wrote:Greetings, Lucretia. You are kind about my voice. Perhaps I'm in line for a new insight! I made the assumption that the copy on my shelf and the copy in the Gutenberg Library would be identical. After all, it's not a translation--the original is English. I would have no problem re-recording it using the Gutenberg text. I used my book merely to save paper! Thanks for this information. Fascinating! Please allow me to re-read, re-edit, and re-post. I do not resent any of it since this is my first foray and everything I've done so far has been a rich learning experience.
Any other feedback would be welcome: sound quality, background noise, edits--
I'm not asking you to keep listening, just given what you've listened to so far can you provide constructive feedback?
I'll be away from my recording room and equipment for several days but back by mid-March.
Jan M.
Oh, I am sorry, Jan--but you are not the first to encounter this problem, as you might guess. LibriVox could be challenged on the copyright status of this recording, and we would be forced to remove it or face legal action. And this has actually happened in the past on occasion as I understand it. So we must very careful about enforcing this rule.

Stories of this type can be included in newer copyrighted collections. New editions can perhaps add criticism or commentary or even "modernize" or otherwise change some of the wording and therefore claim a copyright. For example:

Project Gutenberg 1910 edition: "...the soundness of his nature was like pure paste under a delicate glaze."
Your recording: "...the soundess of his nature was like pure paste under a fine glaze."

Project Gutenberg 1910 edition: "...to turn back to our host with the absurd demand..."
Your recording: "...to turn back to our host with the joking demand..."

You are clearly an accomplished reader, so I didn't suppose that these were just slips on your part. As for any other issues, all of your technical specs are on the mark, Jan. Volume is great, background noise is negligible. The pace is good with clear enunciation--easy to understand and pleasant to hear. The only thing that I would mention for your future efforts--we need lowercase letters in the file name--no caps.

Some people record from their computer screen, scrolling down as they go along. But I personally find it difficult to read from the computer, so I most often do print out the text when I record. I prefer to read from a hard copy. (But I do print on the back side of paper destined for the shredder anyway.) Please don't be discouraged, Jan. You did a great job on the recording. I will remove your file from the MW for now, but I do hope that you find time to submit it again if you wish. Let us know if you have any questions--and thank you again!

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, JAN!! I've been searching around on Archive.org, and I think that I've found a 1914 edition of the book (which would indeed be public domain) that seems to have some of the wording that is in your recording! Let me PL your recording today against the Archive.org text. We may be able to use your recording as is after all.

If so, we can just change the source text to the Archive.org link here: https://archive.org/details/talesmenandghos01whargoog

Don't do any re-recording yet. Let me get back to you...

jmoorehouse · Post by **jmoorehouse** » February 28th, 2014, 8:08 am

Lucretia, I was about to write back to your first note to say, "Nope! Not discouraged--just a wee bit embarrassed!" Then I saw your second and felt a genuine lift of the spirits! Keep me posted. I won't be at my desk for several days but will return to recording by mid-March, wiser and more ready!
Jan

jvanstan · Post by **jvanstan** » February 28th, 2014, 3:59 pm

Hello again

I was wondering if I may read another? I've always been fond of Polidori's "The Vampyre".

It's a public domain text on Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6087/6087-h/6087-h.htm

Best,
John

Post by **bart** » February 28th, 2014, 4:03 pm

You don't have to ask John. Just do it!

Bart

lubee930 · Post by **lubee930** » February 28th, 2014, 5:28 pm

jmoorehouse wrote:https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_eyes_wharton_JM_128kb.mp3
Hi Bart. I have just finished recording/editing the ghost story by Edith Wharton titled "The Eyes." Here's the copyright link on Project Gutenberg:
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/4514/pg4514.txt
Recording time is 42:30. I think this is the information you needed. If not, let me know!
This is my first recording. I would like to be listed as Jan Moorehouse.
Thanks--

Great news, Jan! Your recording follows the 1914 Archive.org edition (rather than the 1910 Gutenberg edition)--so we will be able to use it!

I've changed your source document in the MW to the Archive.org text. I'm so glad that I kept poking around--I didn't want you to have to re-record the whole thing! As I mentioned, all of your tech specs are just fine, but we have a couple of things to fix.

Section 07 (The Eyes):
--At ~26:38 (page 262 of the Archive.org text) there is a repeat "There were moments of our pilgrimage when beauty born of murmuring sound seemed actually to pass into his face--"
--We also need to make a couple of corrections to both the Intro and the Outro. If you notice in the recording instructions in the first post of this thread, the Intro should be as follows:

"[Story title] by [Author name]. - This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org"
If you wish, say:
"Recording by [your name]"
Say:
"[Story title] by [Author name]."

You need to add the portion in red to your track. I know that it may seem strange to say the Title and Author twice, but there are reasons why it is done. (You can probably just "copy and paste" it in there from the first time that you say it.) As for the Outro, we do not need the LibriVox disclaimer again at the end of the recording, so please cut that portion out.

Make those corrections to your track, upload it again with the same file name (no caps, please), post the link here along with the new length of the recording--and I'll take another quick look at it. I really liked the story, Jan--lots of psychological stuff going on there. Let me know if you have any questions or run into any problems. Thanks again!

jmoorehouse · Post by **jmoorehouse** » February 28th, 2014, 7:44 pm

Gold medals to you, Lucretia! I'm on it! Many thanks. Jan

chiquito_crasto · Post by **chiquito_crasto** » March 4th, 2014, 12:55 pm

Hello:

Please accept.

Title: Let Loose
Author: Mary Chomondeley
Year of Publication: 1902
Source of Publication:http://www.litgothic.com/Texts/letloose.html
Uploaded to: https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_letloose_chomondeley_cc_128kb.mp3
Duration: 40' 32"

Thank you.

Chiquito

lubee930 · Post by **lubee930** » March 5th, 2014, 12:22 pm

chiquito_crasto wrote:Hello:
Please accept.
Title: Let Loose
Author: Mary Chomondeley
Year of Publication: 1902
Source of Publication:http://www.litgothic.com/Texts/letloose.html
Uploaded to: https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_letloose_chomondeley_cc_128kb.mp3
Duration: 40' 32"
Thank you.
Chiquito

Hi, Chiquito--So good to see you here again!!

I have put your story in the MW, and I will try to listen later this evening.

NOTE TO BART: I think that you will need to add this author to the database so that we can complete the metadata? Thanks!

Post by **bart** » March 5th, 2014, 12:55 pm

done and added

chiquito_crasto · Post by **chiquito_crasto** » March 5th, 2014, 8:46 pm

Hello:
Please accept.

Title: August Heat
Author: William Fryer Harvey
Year of Publication: 1910
Source of Publication:http://www.annexed.net/box/augustheat/index.html
Uploaded to: https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_augustheat_harvey_cc_128kb.mp3
Duration: 13' 40"

Thank you.
Chiquito

Post by **bart** » March 6th, 2014, 12:32 am

Thank you Chiquito

lubee930 · Post by **lubee930** » March 7th, 2014, 8:25 pm

chiquito_crasto wrote:Hello:
Please accept.
Title: Let Loose
Author: Mary Chomondeley
Year of Publication: 1902
Source of Publication:http://www.litgothic.com/Texts/letloose.html
Uploaded to: https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_letloose_chomondeley_cc_128kb.mp3
Duration: 40' 32"
Thank you.
Chiquito

chiquito_crasto wrote:Hello:
Please accept.
Title: August Heat
Author: William Fryer Harvey
Year of Publication: 1910
Source of Publication:http://www.annexed.net/box/augustheat/index.html
Uploaded to: https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_augustheat_harvey_cc_128kb.mp3
Duration: 13' 40"
Thank you.
Chiquito

Oh, both good stories, Chiquito! I can't imagine going down into that crypt and locking both doors behind me as I went.

And I liked the fact that the conclusion of "August Heat" was left to the reader's/listener's imagination.

Section 08 (Let Loose):
--At ~14:09 there is a repeat "Setting down some of my things with a trembling hand on a rough stone shelf proscribed--Setting down some of my things with a trembling hand on a rough stone shelf hard by..."
--At ~21:01 the portion in red is omitted "When I had worked as long as I could, I put away my books with regret that even then I had not quite finished, as I had hoped to do."

Section 09 (August Heat):
--No notes on the reading of the text, but the volume is too high at 97.4 dB. Could you please amplify by around -9.0 to bring it down?

I'll take another quick look at both when you've gotten the corrections made. Thank you, Chiquito!

jvanstan · Post by **jvanstan** » March 10th, 2014, 4:34 pm

Hey- I recorded The Vampyre... and it's well over an hour :/

Instead, I opted for something shorter and sweeter (as far as ghost stories go): Eleonora by Poe

The text can be found at the bottom of this link: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2148/2148-h/2148-h.htm#link2H_4_0021

https://librivox.org/uploads/bart/ghohor024_eleonora_poe_jtvs_128kb.mp3 (15:16)

Looking forward to the listener's thoughts

Best,
John