[COMPLETE] The Lausiac History - phi

[Monaxi]

The Lausiac History by Palladius ( - 457/461) . Translated by W.K.LOWTHER CLARKE B.D. (1879 - 1968).

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The Lausiac History (Historia Lausiaca) is a seminal work archiving the Desert Fathers (early Christian monks who lived in the Egyptian desert) written in 419-420 by Palladius of Galatia, at the request of Lausus, chamberlain at the court of the Byzantine Emperor Theodosius II. (Summary by Wikipedia)

Certainly not all of the Christian monks mentioned in the Lausiac History are recognized as Saints. The influence of Origen on the author, as well as on many of the desert dwellers, is clearly seen in this collection of stories. However, Origen's teachings were condemned as heretical in the 6th century. The recognized Saints mentioned include Anthony the Great, Paul the Simple, Macarius of Alexandria, Macarius of Egypt, Pachomius, Isidora the Fool for Christ, Melania the Younger, Pambo, and Serapion. (Comments by the reader.)

• Target completion date: 2013-Dec-31
• Text source (only read from this text!): http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/palladius_lausiac_02_text.htm#PREFACE
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  • Does the project have an introduction or preface [y/n]: yes
  • Original publication date (if known): 1918
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[francesb]

Hmm I looked on the catalog to see if this had been done before and nothing came up. Even if it has, listeners like two choices.

[Monaxi]

I'm really looking forward to recording this, and am getting ready to start.

Frances, thank you for your encouragement.

[annise]

dates for Author for you to add to your first post -
William Kemp Lowther Clarke (1879–1968)

[philchenevert]

I am just curious to know the publisher of this work in 1918.

[annise]

It seems a genuine date, amazon describes the 2011 one as a facsimile with original imperfections - is that what was worrying you ? first american edition of vol 1 published 1904 from Cambridge University Press 1898 edition probably

Anne

[philchenevert]

I am just concerned that the actual published text will be used as the source material and if so, who was the publisher. The link is to the Tertullian website and only says the text was transcribed in 1903. I did not see the original publisher anywhere. I agree that this would be a good thing to record.

[RuthieG]

Is this version accessible to you in the US, Phil? It is search-only for me, but that may be because I am in Europe, and the author died less than 70 years ago.

Ruth

[philchenevert]

Is this version accessible to you in the US, Phil? It is search-only for me, but that may be because I am in Europe, and the author died less than 70 years ago.
Ruth

Yes, it shows the Indiana University as publishing house as well as the scan. Thank you Ruth.
EDI T: I will MC this unless someone else wishes to do so.

[philchenevert]

Monaxi. Please add a tilde at the beginning of the title to advertise for a DPL. Here is a video in case this is your first solo. Doing Your First Solo. I will set up the Magic Window later today. Please ask if you have any questions.

[Monaxi]

Hello Phil! I am thrilled that you will be working on this with me. I was offline for the weekend, and this was such a delightful surprise. I have been watching your videos, and trying things out, and look forward to watching the one about solo projects this evening.

I saw that there was some discussion about which text is in the pd. Can we go ahead with the one I linked? This is the quote from the site that lead me to believe it was in the pd:

"These English translations are all out of copyright, but were not included in the 38 volume collection of Ante-Nicene, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers. Please take copies and place online elsewhere. In some cases I have felt it necessary to add an introduction to the online text. These are all placed in the public domain also -- copy freely. The texts are listed in chronological order."

The first time I saw this online it was from an Egyptian tourism website, which notes a much earlier translation. However, looking at it again, I'm highly suspicious - it reads too easily. Just for your information here is that link:

http://www.touregypt.net/documents/lausiacindex.htm

Although there are more sections for this "Egyptian version," it's the same material in the same order, as far as I can tell. Also, after having printed out and examined the linked version more closely, I believe it can be done nicely in 10 sections, including the introductory material.

Thanks again, and please advise me if we are going to work with a different translation.

Sister Irene

[philchenevert]

That is great, Sister; and I look forward to a great experience with this. However, the link you have posted leads to the middle of a document, section X or thereabout. Is this where you want to start? It seems confusing to me.

[Monaxi]

That site is strange, how the link reflects not the page, but wherever you've left the cursor. Anyway, I changed the link, and plan to begin with the preface. There are three short passages for the introduction. The stories of the desert fathers will begin in the second section.

[philchenevert]

That site is strange, how the link reflects not the page, but wherever you've left the cursor. Anyway, I changed the link, and plan to begin with the preface. There are three short passages for the introduction. The stories of the desert fathers will begin in the second section.

OK, that looks fine. About naming the sections, I put the first one in to show how they should lead off with a number, in this case 00 since this is the preface and introduction. You have a lot of freedom in deciding how to name the sections meaning you can name the Fathers included in the section or just name them "03 - Section 3". I lean towards identifying what the sections will included in the names but that is your choice.

[Monaxi]

I have two questions re the actual reading of this type of text.

First, there are numbers within the text, almost like verse numbers. I've noticed that Jonathan Lange reads these numbers, but in my text they are more frequent, and sometimes occur in the middle of sentences. I wouldn't read them in, for instance, a reading from the Bible. Do you advise leaving them out, or is it better to read them?

Second, there are words inserted parenthetically, perhaps by the translator, which are sometimes helpful, and sometimes not, in conveying the meaning. Is it recommended to always include those, or to use my discretion?

Thank you for your advice.