Any Russian-speaking readers around?

Post by **Availle** » November 23rd, 2011, 11:16 am

Hi Elizabeth, nice to have you here!

The first thing you should do is to record a short one minute test, so that we can be sure your technical settings are all correct. Everything you need to know about the test is here: http://wiki.librivox.org/index.php/1-Minute_Test

And then, well...

We don't usually request anything - all our readers are free to choose what they would like to read.

Right now, there are no group projects open in Russian, but you can always read a short story or a poem for one of our multilingual collections. I don't know anything about Russian books online, we often use archive.org and gutenberg.org to find etexts.

The latter has only 5 books in Russian, all of them are very short and perfect for a beginner, but I don't know if they are interesting at all?
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/?default_prefix=lang_id&query=ru&format=html

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » December 28th, 2011, 11:55 pm

hello. I have an entire book of russian folk fairy tales. I assure you it is in the public domain. I can start it as my personal project. I live in Russia and speak fluently in russian. native speaker. If you are interested let me know.

Starlite · Post by **Starlite** » December 29th, 2011, 4:08 am

Is your book available anywhere on the internet? If not, you will need to scan in the copyright page(s) from the front of the book and send it to your coordinator (MC).

What is your book called? When did the author die?

Esther

RuthieG · Post by **RuthieG** » December 29th, 2011, 9:39 am

Starlite wrote:What is your book called? When did the author die?

And, more importantly for our purposes, as all LibriVox recordings need to be in the Public Domain in the USA, where all our files are stored, when was it published? It definitely needs to have been published in or before 1922, if published outside the US, which I assume it was.

Ruth

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » December 30th, 2011, 12:28 am

the author is russian folk. Book is called "russian folk fairy tales" But one man named Alexander Nikolaevich Afanasiev collected these fairy tales and put them into one book. He died on the 23rd of september 1870. But of course i cant get the book which is the original. Which is 140 years old and lies somewhere in a museum. I have a USSR edition of 1990. I can record it if you like. I dont like narrating from the screen. It spoils my eyes more thannarrating from the paper pages.

RuthieG · Post by **RuthieG** » December 30th, 2011, 3:07 am

You see, the problem with newer editions is that we do not know if anything has been changed in them, which would mean that a new copyright would exist. There is no problem per se with reading from a paper copy, as long as someone can check that it is exactly the same as the version which is in the public domain, but unless we can find an online version for a proof-listener to check against, then it is impossible for us to know if it is identical.

Ruth

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » December 30th, 2011, 11:10 am

why ask for a proof-listener. I guarantee the high quality. i know Russian from a to z. My mother is a nurse in a kindergarden. She knows old russian very well and from my very childhood she read to me a lot and when i began reading i was one of the best readers in school. My mom can be a proof-listener. There are many russian audiobooks which are not in the public domain and those sites that give them for free are not afraid of any obscure apparition of law.

Starlite · Post by **Starlite** » December 30th, 2011, 11:45 am

Why a proof listener?

I started here as a proof listener and let me tell you the mistakes I have heard! Many times a reader forgets an edit like a cough or repeated phrase. (Even the BEST of us make mistakes)

In your case, the proof listener would be able to tell if the 1990 edition is EXACTLY the same as the original. Any alterations can represent a NEW COPYRIGHT. What this means to LibriVox, is that a lawsuit could SHUT US DOWN COMPLETELY. We have NO BUDGET for lawyers etc.

There are many russian audiobooks which are not in the public domain and those sites that give them for free are not afraid of any obscure apparition of law.

It doesn't matter what others do. There is A LOT of copyrighted material on the world wide web. That DOES NOT MAKE IT OK. It is still against the law and we will not be a part of that.

It may seem a hard stand but it has worked for over 5 years and we have had a few estates question some of our work and they had to be removed though some were CLEARLY PD. You would not want your work to be in vain.

If you don't like or agree with our PD policy, you can upload the recordings to Archive.org and take on the consequences yourself.

Esther

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » December 31st, 2011, 1:39 am

ok. i just want to do something good.

Starlite · Post by **Starlite** » December 31st, 2011, 4:42 am

Can you find an online edition of the original work?

Esther

RuthieG · Post by **RuthieG** » December 31st, 2011, 9:23 am

It isn't this one, is it? (says she, hopefully)

http://hdl.handle.net/2027/inu.30000121028611

Ruth

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » January 1st, 2012, 5:56 am

It isn't this one, is it? (says she, hopefully)

no((

monparnas · Post by **monparnas** » January 1st, 2012, 6:07 am

http://kirsoft.com.ru/freedom/KSNews_1008.htm

Vaddy · Post by **Vaddy** » February 10th, 2012, 12:05 pm

How do I know if Mayakovsky's "Poem about the Soviet Passport" is in the PD? It's a good example for those wishing to perfect their Russian. If I record it, how can it be uploaded? It's easy to make a picture copy of it right from the book for a prooflistener. And how do I upload both the recording and the text picture copy?

Cori · Post by **Cori** » February 10th, 2012, 12:38 pm

The first question's the best place to start ... so, when was it published?