COMPLETE: [RELIGION] St Irenaeus Against Heresies - le

[rjhargrav]

My apologies, Joe! Should I re-upload the file, or will Kikisaulite be able to sort it out from here?

[JoeD]

My apologies, Joe! Should I re-upload the file, or will Kikisaulite be able to sort it out from here?

I bet Kikisaulite can change the name of that file herself. Things get messy though, if all sections are submitted without following the same naming convention.

Thanks again..!!

[rjhargrav]

Yes, that was sloppy on my part. Live and learn!

[JoeD]

Does anyone know of a reliable pronunciation guide for unfamiliar names in the text?

Ireneaus originally wrote this book in some form of ancient Greek, so if you can find a pronciation guide online that might help. I am assuming that you are referring to the names of the various Aeons and emminations, which is the most troublesome reading. When I read this stuff, I do my best to keep my pronounciation reasonably close and consistent, and go off what I know from previous readings, but the truth is I am just faking it. There are lots of pronounciation guides online for Hellenistic Greek (which all the names of the Aeons are transliterations of), but to be perfectly honest, I don't have the patience to slog through all that. I think there might even be some easy charts and guides on Wikipedia. In informal readings such as this though - I don't know if strict pronouciations are really even adhered to by everybody, because I hear old Greek words pronounced all sorts of different ways - and this by scholars and professors - so I figure, why should I worry about it??

In general though, I usually stress the second sylabble in words of 3 sylabbles or more (AnTHROpos, ProPATor, Monogenes = Mo-NAW-gen-ees, etc..), make sure there are no silent sylabbles (Sige is pronounced seh-GEE), round out the dipthongs (Aeon is pronounced EYE-own), and sound out all sylabbles (Autophyes is pronounced ow-to-PHEE-yes.... or at least that is how I pronounce it )

If anybody has any better information or advice, feel free to chime in..!!

Also, in the magic window, is there a way to go back from the "Link to Text", rather than refreshing the whole thread?

I suppose that depends on your browser - but on Internet Explorer, you can click the 'back' button. That should do it. Or, you can open the text in a new window. Just right-click 'text to read' and select 'open in new window' or 'open in new tab'.

Hope that helps!!

[JoeD]

I did not include footnotes for this reading, but if you want to download the original book off archive.org, you can see them - lots of them are really interesting and helpful. Here is a good one if you are confused about all those strange names for the Aeons, and what they mean:

It may be well to give here the English equivalents of the names of these Æons and their authors. They are as follows: Bythus, Profundity; Proarche, First-Beginning; Propator, First-Father; Ennœa, Idea; Charis, Grace; Sige, Silence; Nous, Intelligence; Aletheia, Truth; Logos, Word; Zoe, Life; Anthropos, Man; Ecclesia, Church; Bythius, Deep; Mixis, Mingling; Ageratos, Undecaying; Henosis, Union; Autophyes, Self-existent; Hedone, Pleasure; Acinetos, Immoveable; Syncrasis, Blending; Monogenes, Only-Begotten; Macaria, Happiness; Paracletus, Advocate; Pistis, Faith; Patricos, Ancestral; Elpis, Hope; Metricos, Metrical; Agape, Love; Ainos, Praise; Synesis, Understanding; Ecclesiasticus, Ecclesiastical; Macariotes, Felicity; Theletos, Desiderated; Sophia, Wisdom.

[kmerline]

Joe and reading team: Here is what I try to remember to put in the first post for my ancient Greek and Latin projects:

Readers who would like help pronouncing Greek names may consult the following references:
http://dictionary.reference.com/
http://bartleby.com/65/
Or, consult the new LibriVox Wiki page for pronounciation resources at:
http://librivox.org/wiki/moin.cgi/HowToReadGuides_%28pronunciation%2C_reading_footnotes%29

I'm guessing that Ireneus was close enough to the New Testament era to write in the Greek dialect called "Koine", or common (meaning everyone used it) Greek. I don't distinguish between the dialects . . .

[tsoapm]

Thanks for all that! Very helpful.

[JoeD]

section 02:
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_02_robertsrambaut.mp3

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[JoeD]

Section 03:

http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_03_robertsrambaut.mp3


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[Marian Martin]

Here's section 09.
Duration: 17:17
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_09_robertsrambaut.mp3

Marian

[JoeD]

Here's section 09.
Duration: 17:17
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_09_robertsrambaut.mp3

Marian

Right on..!! Thank you Marian..!!

[Marian Martin]

Hello,
Here's Section 10.
Duration: 23:01
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_10_robertsrambaut.mp3
Regards.
Marian

[tsoapm]

My apologies. I've barely managed to start recording over the course of the weeks and I'm just about to start a new job, so I think I should unvolunteer myself for those sections I said I'd do.

Apologies again. Thank you for everyone who does manage to contribute - I really appreciate the effort that people put in to make this happen.

[JoeD]

My apologies. I've barely managed to start recording over the course of the weeks and I'm just about to start a new job, so I think I should unvolunteer myself for those sections I said I'd do.

Not a problem - and I appreciate you letting me know. If you are ever able to find time again, come on back..!!

[JoeD]

Hello,
Here's Section 10.
Duration: 23:01
http://upload.librivox.org/share/uploads/kb/againstheresies_10_robertsrambaut.mp3
Regards.
Marian

Thanks for secion 10, Marian. Sorry for taking a while to update the Magic Window - I lost my blasted pasecode to get in there , fortunately kmerline came to the rescue and bailed me out