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Anybody interested in Edgar Wallace?
The Aussies have a good selection at their Gutenberg.
http://www.gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty-n-z.html#letterW
There are a lot of lot books listed which are pre 1923 ... For instance the first four releases of the "Just Man" Stories.

I am not sure about the rest of the world, but Edagr Wallace is very famous in Germany! The German translations are, unfortunatelly, all published after 1923. Even after the German translations from Ravi Ravendro become PD in Europe (he died in 1941) a recording would still not be possible under US restrictions. Well, that is just fyi :wink:
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Oh that's such a shame about the German translations! There's a few of his works in the catalogue already, but I bet more will be on their way.
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Have to be careful about PD Australia, though. Their copyright laws are different than the US ones. Quite a bit of what appears at PG Australia is still copyright in the US, because of the (effectively) 95 year copyright for works created between 1923 and when the US signed the Berne convention and mase it Life+70 from that point on.
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PaulW wrote:Have to be careful about PD Australia, though. Their copyright laws are different than the US ones. Quite a bit of what appears at PG Australia is still copyright in the US, because of the (effectively) 95 year copyright for works created between 1923 and when the US signed the Berne convention and mase it Life+70 from that point on.
Right, but as I already mentioned in the first post there is a lot of work listed which is published before 1923 (and which is NOT on Gutenberg-US). In most cases the year is mentioned behind the text which makes it easy to check the status from US perspective. The Aussies did a great job here to take care about such conflicts. 8-)
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Post by Carolin »

picking up this suggestion to point out that in the meantime, edgar wallace has become pd in europe (died in 1941), and there are plenty of his books on gutenberg :)

Bones in London by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/27525

Bones by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24450

Sanders of the River by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35545

The Book of All-Power by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24920

The Keepers of the King's Peace by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25803

Jack O' Judgment by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24767

The Man Who Knew by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24933

The Duke in the Suburbs by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/49694

Tam o' the Scoots by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25038

Writ in Barracks by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/49658

Bosambo of the River by Edgar Wallace
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/49657
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Picking up on this topic, now at this later date: did enyone establish if "The Four Just Men" series by Edgar Wallace is PD in the USA? I'm trawling to find stories that might suit me for solo projects and this series very much appeals.
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Ansam wrote: March 24th, 2023, 5:44 am Picking up on this topic, now at this later date: did enyone establish if "The Four Just Men" series by Edgar Wallace is PD in the USA? I'm trawling to find stories that might suit me for solo projects and this series very much appeals.
Yes, I created a thread that has a list of every unrecorded Edgar Wallace book currently in PD:
viewtopic.php?p=2140763
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Thanks flavo5000, your broad knowledge once again comes to the rescue!
Cheers,
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Hi flavo5000. I am considering a recording of "The Four Just Men".
It seems to me that there are two distinct parts to this book. So my question is, do you think it could be split into two recordings i.e. "The FJM part 1" and "The FJM part 2"? Might there be an MC who is willing to advise on this?
cheers,
Andy
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First, the faded page edition is marked copyright 1936, so you would need to read from an earlier edition. It was first published in 1905, but here is a link to a Google scan of the 1920 edition at Archive. https://archive.org/details/fourjustmen01wallgoog which is also available on wikisource at
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Four_Just_Men_(1920)

As for splitting it into two projects, without reading the book, I don't know if that would make sense. At ~81,000 words, that would be about 9 hrs total assuming an average reading speed of 150 wpm. That sounds doable to me for a single project.
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Ansam wrote: May 25th, 2023, 7:55 am Hi flavo5000. I am considering a recording of "The Four Just Men".
It seems to me that there are two distinct parts to this book. So my question is, do you think it could be split into two recordings i.e. "The FJM part 1" and "The FJM part 2"? Might there be an MC who is willing to advise on this?
cheers,
Andy
Well, I don't think the two parts have ever been published separately from one another, so it seems like Wallace intended it to be read as a single work. I would say if you intend to record both parts then I'd suggest going ahead and creating a single project for both. I think it would end up being around the same length at the E. F. Benson collection you just finished (which is great btw!). That's just my personal opinion though, and you're welcome to set it up however you'd like. :)
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knotyouraveragejo wrote: May 25th, 2023, 12:17 pm First, the faded page edition is marked copyright 1936, so you would need to read from an earlier edition. It was first published in 1905, but here is a link to a Google scan of the 1920 edition at Archive. https://archive.org/details/fourjustmen01wallgoog which is also available on wikisource at
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Four_Just_Men_(1920)

As for splitting it into two projects, without reading the book, I don't know if that would make sense. At ~81,000 words, that would be about 9 hrs total assuming an average reading speed of 150 wpm. That sounds doable to me for a single project.
Yea, I thought I had replaced all the fadedpage links with later copyright dates but I must have missed this one. In addition to the archive link above, there's also this hathitrust link too: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn5saf&view=1up&seq=7
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knotyouraveragejo wrote: May 25th, 2023, 12:17 pm First, the faded page edition is marked copyright 1936, so you would need to read from an earlier edition. It was first published in 1905, but here is a link to a Google scan of the 1920 edition at Archive. https://archive.org/details/fourjustmen01wallgoog which is also available on wikisource at
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Four_Just_Men_(1920)

As for splitting it into two projects, without reading the book, I don't know if that would make sense. At ~81,000 words, that would be about 9 hrs total assuming an average reading speed of 150 wpm. That sounds doable to me for a single project.
Thanks Jo, I think it might be OK as two projects but given your summary of the read time you, very usefully, state I think I'll go for one.
Cheers,
Andy
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flavo5000 wrote: May 25th, 2023, 12:20 pm
Ansam wrote: May 25th, 2023, 7:55 am Hi flavo5000. I am considering a recording of "The Four Just Men".
It seems to me that there are two distinct parts to this book. So my question is, do you think it could be split into two recordings i.e. "The FJM part 1" and "The FJM part 2"? Might there be an MC who is willing to advise on this?
cheers,
Andy
Well, I don't think the two parts have ever been published separately from one another, so it seems like Wallace intended it to be read as a single work. I would say if you intend to record both parts then I'd suggest going ahead and creating a single project for both. I think it would end up being around the same length at the E. F. Benson collection you just finished (which is great btw!). That's just my personal opinion though, and you're welcome to set it up however you'd like. :)
Thanks flav5000, I've taken into account what both you and Jo have to say and I may get started on one full version very soon.
Cheers,
Andy
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