[RESOLVED] Error Milton, John Paradise Lost
1) Paradise Lost by John Milton
2) http://librivox.org/paradise-lost-by-john-milton/
3) The error occurs somewhere between Book 5 part 1, and Book 9 part1.
4) The file format I used was mp3 @ 128kbps.
5) I did not download the file, but instead played the recording on iTunes, which was an option on my computer.
6) Either the files are miss named, or one part of the novel is missing. Books 1 through 4 are fine, but somewhere between Book 5 and 9 the problem occurs. I'm really sorry, but I can't narrow it down more than that.
7) This happened on October 26, 2008 at around 7:30 EST
Thank you for checking this out! Let me know if there is anything I can do!
2) http://librivox.org/paradise-lost-by-john-milton/
3) The error occurs somewhere between Book 5 part 1, and Book 9 part1.
4) The file format I used was mp3 @ 128kbps.
5) I did not download the file, but instead played the recording on iTunes, which was an option on my computer.
6) Either the files are miss named, or one part of the novel is missing. Books 1 through 4 are fine, but somewhere between Book 5 and 9 the problem occurs. I'm really sorry, but I can't narrow it down more than that.
7) This happened on October 26, 2008 at around 7:30 EST
Thank you for checking this out! Let me know if there is anything I can do!
Took a quick check between those files (#09-17) - in the player on the archive.org page they seem to be in the right order (but I only went by what the reader said, I didn't check with the text).
What does strike me: part #13 is called "Book Seven, Part 2" on the LV catalog page and in the archive.org player-window - though it is "Book Seven, Part 1" - which does seem to be corrected on the archive.org page itself (probably by the edit function?) but in the files themselves, the ID3 tag still says "Book Seven, Part 2".
However, since the ID3 tags start off with a number (which numbers have the correct order) - I would imagine they would still play in the correct order??
But this might have been the thing that struck you, ktcohen?
So, in conclusion, the ID3 tag of #13 is incorrect. I have no time to change that now (have to get to my job). Someone else have some time?
Anna
What does strike me: part #13 is called "Book Seven, Part 2" on the LV catalog page and in the archive.org player-window - though it is "Book Seven, Part 1" - which does seem to be corrected on the archive.org page itself (probably by the edit function?) but in the files themselves, the ID3 tag still says "Book Seven, Part 2".
However, since the ID3 tags start off with a number (which numbers have the correct order) - I would imagine they would still play in the correct order??
But this might have been the thing that struck you, ktcohen?
So, in conclusion, the ID3 tag of #13 is incorrect. I have no time to change that now (have to get to my job). Someone else have some time?
Anna
Well, then I'm not sure whether the faulty tag was the problem - I doubt it...
So you say you were missing a piece of the text?? Was there a repetition of a part? Or how long was the missing part, approximately: a few minutes, or a whole section?
I checked the file lengths, and they correspond with what I think they should be (for insiders: they correspond with the durations given in the Validator). So there is no obvious truncation of files (a common problem with the derivation process).
(OK - the new file #13 has just been put on Archive.org)
Anyone have any more ideas on what to do here?
So you say you were missing a piece of the text?? Was there a repetition of a part? Or how long was the missing part, approximately: a few minutes, or a whole section?
I checked the file lengths, and they correspond with what I think they should be (for insiders: they correspond with the durations given in the Validator). So there is no obvious truncation of files (a common problem with the derivation process).
(OK - the new file #13 has just been put on Archive.org)
Anyone have any more ideas on what to do here?
Well, I listened a but further - and detected something more -
I listened to the first few seconds of each recording (so after the disclaimer) of the last four sections (so book 9 & book 10), following along with the text. All the ID3 tags seem to be correct - but...
For recording 17 & 18 (= book 9 part I & II) - the reader starts with reading the so-called "argument" - a kind of summary I guess of the book. This is not in the Gutenberg text they were supposed to be reading from, but can be found in other (online) sources. So the first few minutes of the readings, at least of Book 9, are different from the Gutenberg text. After that, the "real poem" text starts off correctly.
I didn't check all files, but perhaps more of them start off with this "argument". Could that perhaps be what you noticed ktcohen?
I listened to the first few seconds of each recording (so after the disclaimer) of the last four sections (so book 9 & book 10), following along with the text. All the ID3 tags seem to be correct - but...
For recording 17 & 18 (= book 9 part I & II) - the reader starts with reading the so-called "argument" - a kind of summary I guess of the book. This is not in the Gutenberg text they were supposed to be reading from, but can be found in other (online) sources. So the first few minutes of the readings, at least of Book 9, are different from the Gutenberg text. After that, the "real poem" text starts off correctly.
I didn't check all files, but perhaps more of them start off with this "argument". Could that perhaps be what you noticed ktcohen?
Well - I didn't listen to the whole file, so there might very well be something missing... Hard to know, now...
Or was it the fact that some of the readers DON'T read that "argument"? (I'm just grasping at straws here...)
Maybe someone else will come along who has noticed where the missing text would be, exactly? That will help in pinpointing it.
By the way, before I forget, thank you for coming here especially to point this out to us! It is so easy for something to go wrong in the amount of work we produce...
Or was it the fact that some of the readers DON'T read that "argument"? (I'm just grasping at straws here...)
Maybe someone else will come along who has noticed where the missing text would be, exactly? That will help in pinpointing it.
By the way, before I forget, thank you for coming here especially to point this out to us! It is so easy for something to go wrong in the amount of work we produce...
You are extremely welcome! You guys do really good work, and I am glad to help in any way I can. Again, I'm am really sorry that I can't pinpoint the problem further. I had to give back the text that I had back, but I might try to get it from the library and help out that way! I'll get back to you.
Hi kt,
We had a comment similar to yours here: http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16380
I am beginning to suspect that there might be different text versions?? I know nothing whatsoever about it - but I've also checked the readings of Book VIII now, and they too follow the Gutenberg text.
What kind of source were you reading from (too bad you had to return it!)?
Anna
We had a comment similar to yours here: http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16380
I am beginning to suspect that there might be different text versions?? I know nothing whatsoever about it - but I've also checked the readings of Book VIII now, and they too follow the Gutenberg text.
What kind of source were you reading from (too bad you had to return it!)?
Anna
The mystery is solved.
This is a recording of the text of Milton's first edition of 1667, which had ten books, unlike the second edition (1674) which was redivided into twelve books in the manner of Virgil's Aeneid. See Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost
I have added a note to the Librivox and archive.org catalogue pages to this effect.
Ruth
This is a recording of the text of Milton's first edition of 1667, which had ten books, unlike the second edition (1674) which was redivided into twelve books in the manner of Virgil's Aeneid. See Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost
I have added a note to the Librivox and archive.org catalogue pages to this effect.
Ruth
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