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Post by hugh » April 16th, 2006, 7:49 pm

i just did a google search for LibriVox.. and there were "about 1,370,000 [results] for librivox."

how bout that, eh?

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Post by thistlechick » April 16th, 2006, 7:58 pm

I think even more importantly is that LibriVox is the 5th hit for the search:
free audiobooks ... which is how people who have never heard of us will find it =) .

...We're after Project Gutenberg and 3 sites with those words in the domain name, which is pretty hard to beat =)
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Post by kayray » April 16th, 2006, 8:04 pm

Hmm.. we should use the phrase "audio books" somewhere, also. We're a lot lower down on that search page. Audiobooks.org uses "Free Audiobooks, audio books, MP3 books"
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Post by Aldark » April 17th, 2006, 4:49 am

I just did a Google check to and received "about 1,530,000 for librivox" - that's one heck of a change...

It seems the meta data has appropriate keywords, though MP3, Ogg, copywright, and podcast could also be added.

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Post by kayray » April 17th, 2006, 8:23 am

I don't think that google cares much about the meta tag. If I remember correctly it looks for text strings on the actual page and ranks pages according to how many OTHER high-ranking pages link to them (complicated!). Let's see if wikipedia knows anything... ah yes, pretty much:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_(search_engine)#PageRank

(sorry about ugly url; copy/paste)

So lots of people are linking to us! But maybe we should still try to add likely keywords to our front-page text somewhere. It's a bit tricky to do that and not have them stick out like a sore thumb :)

I just searched for "public domain audiobooks" and the #1 link was an about.com page linking to us! Woohoo!
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Post by Aldark » April 17th, 2006, 9:15 am

kayray wrote: So lots of people are linking to us! But maybe we should still try to add likely keywords to our front-page text somewhere. It's a bit tricky to do that and not have them stick out like a sore thumb :)
how about 1pt font (or something like 1% if using CSS) and have the color set to the background color so they're not visible... unless doing a "Select All" or using a screen reader. :-)

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Post by ceastman » April 17th, 2006, 9:23 am

No, no no, that would be eeeeeeevilllllllll... ;)

'Sides, (out of actual technical curiosity), if we did such a thing, would the hidden text screw up our page layouts?

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Post by kayray » April 17th, 2006, 9:45 am

Aldark wrote:
kayray wrote: So lots of people are linking to us! But maybe we should still try to add likely keywords to our front-page text somewhere. It's a bit tricky to do that and not have them stick out like a sore thumb :)
how about 1pt font (or something like 1% if using CSS) and have the color set to the background color so they're not visible... unless doing a "Select All" or using a screen reader. :-)
I think google is smart enough not to fall for hijinks liike that ;-)
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Post by kri » April 17th, 2006, 9:50 am

That's kind of a...bad way of doing it. You can't really do too much to control your ranking in google, unless you spent a lot of time and effort. We'll get up there, I'm sure.

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Post by Aldark » April 17th, 2006, 9:51 am

kayray wrote:
Aldark wrote: how about 1pt font (or something like 1% if using CSS) and have the color set to the background color so they're not visible... unless doing a "Select All" or using a screen reader. :-)
I think google is smart enough not to fall for hijinks liike that ;-)
What if they're in complete sentences though? I'm not a Google search engine expert, but content is content.

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Post by vee » April 17th, 2006, 12:18 pm

Yeah but google doesn't like it when people try to manipulate their rankings. If they catch you they punish you pretty severly. BMW germany had their website removed from the rankings when it was determined that they were cheating.

Really we just need a lot of bloggers to talk about and link to the website. As more people add the link it'll move up. So best thing all of us can do is link to LV on our own websites, and let other people know about it.
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Post by Aldark » April 17th, 2006, 12:19 pm

vee wrote:Yeah but google doesn't like it when people try to manipulate their rankings. If they catch you they punish you pretty severly. BMW germany had their website removed from the rankings when it was determined that they were cheating.
Ok... then nevermind...

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Post by Gesine » April 17th, 2006, 3:27 pm

Both forum and LV homepage are already PR6... pretty good.
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Post by raouf » April 17th, 2006, 4:52 pm

Aldark wrote: What if they're in complete sentences though? I'm not a Google search engine expert, but content is content.
Google's algorithm is not based on content but on how many pages link back to you.
It is a type of "word of mouth" paradigm.

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Post by hugh » April 17th, 2006, 9:55 pm

heh heh ... ok so i posted this, as in, "holy smokes, there are 1.3 million mentions of LV turning up on google! how amazing is that!" ... ;) i don't think we need to worry too much about increasing our google rank, 1.3 million mentions is purty durn good if you ask me!

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