[COMPLETE] Lavengro: The Scholar, The Gypsy, The Priest, by George Borrow-ans

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Sunrise2020 wrote: May 25th, 2024, 7:56 am Maybe the priest was the methodist preacher? But let’s see who is still coming.
Section 84 is okay.
Yes, I wondered about that, too. In England, though, "priest" usually meant "Catholic priest", I think, and almost certainly not a Methodist. But yes, let's see who's coming indeed.

I have uploaded section 85: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_085_borrow_128kb.mp3 (24:50)
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He was taught languages by a priest, Latin and French I think - I thought I remembered something like that and when I searched "priest" I found it - it's a long time since I PLed the early part of Ruthie's version.

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I have uploaded:
Section 86: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_086_borrow_128kb.mp3 (9:35)
Section 87: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_087_borrow_128kb.mp3 (3:52)
Section 88: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_088_borrow_128kb.mp3 (19:09)
Section 89: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_089_borrow_128kb.mp3 (11:06)

SOME NOTES FOR SECTION 88

Foxe’s Book of Martyrs
First published in 1563, this book "includes a polemical account of the sufferings of Protestants under the Catholic Church, with particular emphasis on England and Scotland." (Wikipedia)

Flos Sanctorum
A book written in Spanish (presumably by a Catholic) recounting the lives of the saints, first published in 1605.

The Edict of Nantes
This document was signed in April 1598 by King Henry IV (of France) and granted the minority Calvinist Protestants of France, also known as Huguenots, substantial rights in the nation, which was predominantly Catholic.

In October 1685, Louis XIV, the grandson of Henry IV, renounced the Edict and declared Protestantism illegal. Intense persecution of Protestants took place as a result.

The massacre of the Albigenses
At the behest of Pope Innocent III, a crusade was undertaken around 1210 to 1230 to eliminate a religious sect in southern France who saw themselves as rebelling against the scandalous and dissolute lifestyles of the Catholic clergy. Many thousands were slaughtered, hanged or burned at the stake.

The Vaudois
Troops from Savoy, in northern Italy, massacred 4000 to 6000 Vaudois (also known as the Waldenses) in 1655. The Vaudois were an ascetic relgious group whom the Catholic church had declared heretical.

Orangeman
A member of a secret society organized in the north of Ireland in 1795 to defend the British sovereign and to support the Protestant religion.


The man in black who drinks gin and water
Earlier in the book we met Francis Ardry, who was born in Ireland of a Roman Catholic family. At the end of Chapter 43, speaking of a movement afoot in Ireland (then under English rule) to emancipate the Catholics, Ardry told our narrator "The priests are the originators, and what country was ever benefited by a movement which owed its origin to them?’ so says Voltaire, a page of whom I occasionally read. By the present move they hope to increase their influence, and to further certain designs which they entertain both with regard to this country and Ireland. I do not speak rashly or unadvisedly. A strange fellow—a half-Italian, half-English priest,—who was recommended to me by my guardians, partly as a spiritual, partly as a temporal guide, has let me into a secret or two; he is fond of a glass of gin and water—and over a glass of gin and water cold, with a lump of sugar in it, he has been more communicative, perhaps, than was altogether prudent. Were I my own master, I would kick him, politics, and religious movements, to a considerable distance."

In short, the existence of this man in black has already been foreshadowed.
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annise wrote: May 26th, 2024, 5:34 am He was taught languages by a priest, Latin and French I think - I thought I remembered something like that and when I searched "priest" I found it - it's a long time since I PLed the early part of Ruthie's version.

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It's such a long and perplexing tale, it's hard to keep track of, or even track down, such details. However, as I've just now realised, we've definitely had a clear reference to this particular priest already (see my previous post).
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I have uploaded section 90: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_090_borrow_128kb.mp3 (15:01)

"Hollands" (mentioned at the very end of this section) is Dutch gin.
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Sections 85-89 are okay.

I was worried that Belle had gone missing and was glad when she reappeared in the subsequent section. :D
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I have uploaded:
Section 91: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_091_borrow_128kb.mp3 (4:24)
Section 92: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_092_borrow_128kb.mp3 (12:13)
Section 93: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_093_borrow_128kb.mp3 (5:30)

... in which we learn rather more than I feel comfortable knowing about the bizarre courting habits of the Borrow...

SECTION 92
"Flat" was a slang term for "a raw, an inexperienced fellow, a fool" (https://www.william-sutton.co.uk/2015/12/slang/)

SECTION 93
"the neophytes of the Propaganda". Young missionaries being prepared by Catholic authorities to spread the Gospel in foreign lands.

Margutte and Pulci
Margutte is a character created by Luigi Pulci for his poem Morgante (1478). He is a cunning and malignant half-giant with "strange, hideous and ugly" limbs who, having introduced himself to the giant Morgante boasting of all his skills, is hired by him as a squire.

Mezzofante (sic in Borrow's text)
Giuseppe Gasparo Mezzofanti (1774 - 1849 ) was an Italian cardinal, linguist and philologist renowned for his knowledge of multiple languages. At the time Lavengro was composed, he would only just recently have died — but he would have been very much alive at the time of the narrator's conversation with the priest in Mumper's Dingle.
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I have uploaded section 94: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_094_borrow_128kb.mp3 (29:11)

Dissenters
English Dissenters were Protestants who separated from the Church of England in the 17th and 18th centuries. They opposed state interference in religious matters and founded their own churches, educational establishments and communities.

The See of Rome
The supreme body of government of the Catholic Church.

Emancipation
The Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829, also known as the Catholic Emancipation Act 1829, ceased to bar Roman Catholics in the United Kingdom from Parliament and from higher offices of the judiciary and state.

Mr Platitude
A fictional Church of England clergyman the author holds up as a typical example of his kind.

King Log and Queen Stork
In one of Aesop's fables, a group of frogs called on the great god Zeus to send them a king. He threw down a log, which fell in their pond with a loud splash and terrified them. Eventually one of the frogs peeped above the water and, seeing that it was no longer moving, soon all hopped upon it and made fun of their king. Then the frogs made a second request for a real king and were sent down a stork who started eating them. Once more the frogs appealed to Zeus, but this time he replied that they must face the consequences of their request.

Ivanhoe, Marmion, The Lady of the Lake, Rokeby
Literary works by Walter Scott.

The burning of Priestley's house in Birmingham
The Priestley Riots took place in July 1791 in Birmingham, England. The rioters' main targets were religious dissenters, most notably the politically and theologically controversial Joseph Priestley (the man who discovered oxygen).
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Thank you for these notes! It’d be great if you could record them as a glossary. But I don’t know if that’s allowed.
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Sunrise2020 wrote: May 30th, 2024, 1:10 am Thank you for these notes! It’d be great if you could record them as a glossary. But I don’t know if that’s allowed.
Thanks, Susanne.
In many cases I've just copied and pasted stuff directly from Wikipedia or elsewhere here (without attribution) and these are in all respects "quick and dirty" — really just trying to help you a little as you listen.
I'm not sure the concept of an audio glossary "works" at all, in the sense that a book glossary is typically (in my experience, anyway) a place at the back of a book one can quickly turn to while leaving one's spare finger on the page one is reading. With a paper glossary, it's possible to find the item one wants quite quickly — but this would all break down hopelessly, I think, with an audiobook.
What might work, with some unusual books such as this, would be to have a system whereby we could make available to interested listeners a separate text file that contained glossary entries. I know of no way, however, of implementing this arrangement with our current infrastructure, and I'm not sure enough books would benefit from such a feature as to make developing this infrastructure a worthwhile endeavour.
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If we can't make it available to the listeners, and I appreciate the difficulties, than I'm all the more grateful that I get these notes before I listen. :D
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PL of sections 90-93 is okay.
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PL of section 94 is fine and thanks again for the notes! :clap:
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Are we really getting near the end?
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Sunrise2020 wrote: June 1st, 2024, 10:30 am Are we really getting near the end?
While I've not read ahead yet as far as the conclusion, I gather Lavengro "stops" more than "ends" — that is to say, simply breaks off at the conclusion of the hundredth chapter. There is another book which is, I gather, a direct sequel. I'm not proposing to read that immediately, as I've got some other texts I'm more keen to get into immediately.

I have uploaded section 95: https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/lavengro_095_borrow_128kb.mp3 (16:12)
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