[EXPLORERS]The Third Voyage of James Cook. Volume 1 -jo

[Kitty]

Revised version of Section 10 uploaded with (I hope) all the indicated corrections effected:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_10_cook_128kb.mp3 (28:39).

excellents edits and now PL ok. Thanks !

As you have probably already noticed, I normally correct by re-recording an entire phrase, normally between the two closest punctuation marks. In this case, I re-recorded with entire sentence starting with "Car, partout" at about 16:00, but (greatly daring) simply cut out the superfluous "the" in the last correction.

yes I usually relisten to the entire sentence anyway. It's often easier to re-record one sentence than go and paste small syllables in. I do it the same way in my corrections.

P.S. With regard to your last post, it would appear that many sailors agree with you. I understand that, these days, many "old salts" complain that the younger sailors rely far too much on the GPS (sat nav) and scarcely know which end of a sextant to point at the horizon.

I didn't think they would still use the sextant...now with the GPS systems. Of course, if our technology fails one day, it's helpful to have the old knowledge still.

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 13:

I was wondering whether the Bligh mentioned here is the same than the captain of the famous Bounty years later

Another interesting description of Kerguelen island. Led me to find online pictures of this bridge arch they described here and indeed, it cannot be missed. Unfortunately part of it crumbled with time. here you can see an old picture and what it looks now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Arch

As before, there are a few French pronunciation notes. Let me know if you prefer not to get those in future sections:

> at 4:37: " land opened off the Cape" – you say "appeared", not sure whether there is a precise nautical difference in meaning here so I thought I'd mention it and let you decide

> at 18:33: "le 13 de Février, 1772" – "treizième", or simply "treize" (for dates) not "troisième"

> at 25:10: "ce mouillage" – mu-yage", not "mou-li-nage"

> at 26:00: "elle est couverte de verdure" – "cou-verte", not "cou-ver-ture"

> at 26:15: "une plage de sable" – you say "page"

> at 26:43: "que le pays" – pay-eeh" instead of "puay"

thanks

on more section and I'm up to date

Sonia

Revised version of Section 13 uploaded with all indicated corrections made:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_13_cook_128kb.mp3 (29:22).

I am unsure whether I correctly understood the last correction. I was always taught to pronounce French "pays" essentially the same as English "pay" except for the slightly nasalized French vowel, and in the relevant context there appears to be no need for a liaison with the following word. Your correction seems to assume that the word should be pronounced with two syllables; if I have misunderstood, please advise.

I'm glad you caught the first error. I believe "opened" in this context refers to the way a bay becomes visible as a ship passes an adjacent headland. The far part of the bay b becomes visible first, and the rest, from far to near, is gradually revealed rather in the manner of a theatre curtain opening.

[Kitty]

Revised version of Section 13 uploaded with all indicated corrections made:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_13_cook_128kb.mp3 (29:22).

I am unsure whether I correctly understood the last correction. I was always taught to pronounce French "pays" essentially the same as English "pay" except for the slightly nasalized French vowel, and in the relevant context there appears to be no need for a liaison with the following word. Your correction seems to assume that the word should be pronounced with two syllables; if I have misunderstood, please advise.

indeed, the French word "pays" is pronounced with two syllables, and the stress, as in almost all French words, is on the final syllable. So as I mentioned: payEEH. You can have a listen here: https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=fr&tl=en&text=le%20pays&op=translate.
Do you want to redo that bit or should we leave it at that ?

The rest was perfectly corrected

thanks

Sonia

[Shipley]

Revised version of Section 13 uploaded with all indicated corrections made:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_13_cook_128kb.mp3 (29:22).

I am unsure whether I correctly understood the last correction. I was always taught to pronounce French "pays" essentially the same as English "pay" except for the slightly nasalized French vowel, and in the relevant context there appears to be no need for a liaison with the following word. Your correction seems to assume that the word should be pronounced with two syllables; if I have misunderstood, please advise.

indeed, the French word "pays" is pronounced with two syllables, and the stress, as in almost all French words, is on the final syllable. So as I mentioned: payEEH. You can have a listen here: https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=fr&tl=en&text=le%20pays&op=translate.
Do you want to redo that bit or should we leave it at that ?

The rest was perfectly corrected

thanks

Sonia

Further revised version of Section 13 uploaded with one indicated correction made:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_13_cook_128kb.mp3 (29:22).

[Kitty]

Further revised version of Section 13 uploaded with one indicated correction made:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_13_cook_128kb.mp3 (29:22).

thank you, now I can hear it clearly, you didn't even have to make it so distinct But definitely PL ok now

on to the next part of the voyage

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 17 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_17_cook_128kb.mp3 (34:51).

I take your point regarding the excessive emphasis on the second syllable of "pays"; I have been trying for a long time to overcome my habit of stressing points where I have made corrections, but I have not yet succeeded!

[Kitty]

Section 17 uploaded:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_17_cook_128kb.mp3 (34:51).

I take your point regarding the excessive emphasis on the second syllable of "pays"; I have been trying for a long time to overcome my habit of stressing points where I have made corrections, but I have not yet succeeded!

yes I understand, I also sometimes fall into that trap.

Another interesting part, I love linguistics, so the words at the end were quite fascinating.

I have only a few small edits to suggest:

> at 10:54: "char. gen. plant." - not sure whether you want to read this out as full title, to make it easier understandable for listeners, this is the book he means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteres_generum_plantarum

> at 11:23: "Job's tears" - you say "Jacob's" (wrong biblical figure )

> at 29:11: "pauvres en mots" - you say "moi", it's simply /mo/

thanks, and have a nice weekend still

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 17 uploaded:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_17_cook_128kb.mp3 (34:51).

I take your point regarding the excessive emphasis on the second syllable of "pays"; I have been trying for a long time to overcome my habit of stressing points where I have made corrections, but I have not yet succeeded!

yes I understand, I also sometimes fall into that trap.

Another interesting part, I love linguistics, so the words at the end were quite fascinating.

I have only a few small edits to suggest:

> at 10:54: "char. gen. plant." - not sure whether you want to read this out as full title, to make it easier understandable for listeners, this is the book he means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteres_generum_plantarum

> at 11:23: "Job's tears" - you say "Jacob's" (wrong biblical figure )

> at 29:11: "pauvres en mots" - you say "moi", it's simply /mo/

thanks, and have a nice weekend still

Sonia

Revised version of Section 17 uploaded, with three indicated corrections made:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_17_cook_128kb.mp3 (34:53).

Thank you for your very helpful corrections. I would have preferred to use the full title of the work at 10:54 but did not know where to find it. As someone who frequently reads the Scriptures at my (Anglican) church, I am very embarrassed by the second correction. I am puzzled by the third; I do of course know how to pronounce "mots" but I think these days my brain goes on the fritz after about ten lines of French!

[Kitty]

Revised version of Section 17 uploaded, with three indicated corrections made:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_17_cook_128kb.mp3 (34:53).

Thank you for your very helpful corrections. I would have preferred to use the full title of the work at 10:54 but did not know where to find it.

I love such sleuthing

As someone who frequently reads the Scriptures at my (Anglican) church, I am very embarrassed by the second correction.

well maybe Jacob had a few things to mourn as well.

And now perfectly PL ok, thanks

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 18 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_18_cook_128kb.mp3 (31:55).

[Kitty]

Section 18 uploaded:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_18_cook_128kb.mp3 (31:55).

kudos for getting your tongue around Tomatongeauooranuc they don't know about abbreviated nicknames I suppose (Tom would do well).

wow and what a tragic story about the slaughter of the ship's party, so totally unnecessary. It somehow foreshadows Cook's own tragic ending, but he didn't know it back then. Was that at the end of this third voyage or were there more ?

Absolutely PL ok again, thanks !

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 19 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_19_cook_128kb.mp3 (32:18).

Cook was killed at the end of this third voyage; the seventh volume of this edition is in fact written by his successor. Please do not imply the presence of additional volumes; it is taking me long enough to record the existing seven!

[Kitty]

Section 19 uploaded:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_19_cook_128kb.mp3 (32:18).

Cook was killed at the end of this third voyage; the seventh volume of this edition is in fact written by his successor. Please do not imply the presence of additional volumes; it is taking me long enough to record the existing seven!

it is a huge endeavour and no, I'm not suggesting any more I only was curious whether this was the last few months of his life I am hearing of. Somehow tragic, especially because he seems to be fair to the natives.

And section 19 is also perfectly PL ok. Enjoy your weekend, and thanks for making my job so easy here.

Sonia

[Shipley]

Section 20 uploaded:

https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_20_cook_128kb.mp3 (26:47).

[Kitty]

Section 20 uploaded:
https://librivox.org/uploads/knotyouraveragejo/thirdvoyageojamescookvol1_20_cook_128kb.mp3 (26:47).

interesting wildlife. There must have been so many new species to classify once they found the new continent. What a field-day biologists had back in the day.

And another perfectly PL ok chapter Thanks

Sonia