[COMPLETE] When the Birds Fly South by Stanton A. Coblentz - ans
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Chapter 18 is PL OK. Emotional blackmail part two!
Thanks, Chapter 19 ready for PL and 17 corrected and uploaded. We seem to be a point at last where anything could happen. What will it be?
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_19_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 08:41
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_19_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 08:41
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17, 19 are PL OK. This seems really prone to a narrative problem I sometimes struggle with - he's writing long after the events described have taken place, but he can't do a big reveal in the first chapter or the main drive of the story would be absent. But he keeps dropping in so many references to birds migrating that it's paradoxically regularly reminding me that, according to the book's internal logic, he's already grasped that his wife is part-bird...
Chapter 20 ready for PL. I'll check with the earlier chapters, but I think that to be consistent I need to add 'end of part three' to 19 and 'Part 3, The will of Yulada' to the start of this one.
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_20_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 17:19
This guy (does he have a name?) really is a wild west hero - once he gets an idea in his head, it isn't going to come out!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_20_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 17:19
This guy (does he have a name?) really is a wild west hero - once he gets an idea in his head, it isn't going to come out!
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Notes for section 20 below. He's messed with Yulada! Noooooooooooo!
intro – as you said, check for consistency about adding III: The Will of Yulada
4.59-5.05
...I might read only sorrow in the denuded woods, and menace in the lowering skies...
Very much optional, but since you’ve corrected for less than this in the past – should ‘lowering’ rhyme with dower, glowering?
5.12-5.16
... I might find the peaks cruelly aloof [heard aloft]...
intro – as you said, check for consistency about adding III: The Will of Yulada
4.59-5.05
...I might read only sorrow in the denuded woods, and menace in the lowering skies...
Very much optional, but since you’ve corrected for less than this in the past – should ‘lowering’ rhyme with dower, glowering?
5.12-5.16
... I might find the peaks cruelly aloof [heard aloft]...
Chap. 21 ready for PL! Some support for your theory that Yasma really is a bird!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_21_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 21:11
Thanks for the PL notes on 20 and I will correct when I record the last few chapters.
On 'lowering', I have been corrected so many times on this that I think I will remember. In my defense, I thought I had remembered, but I looked it up to be sure and found this - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lowering. Unless my ears are playing tricks on me, the audio pronunciation is for 'low' as rhymes with 'blow'. In fact, this looks like a mistake in the Cambridge Online dictionary as the audio does not match the IPA, which is correct.
I guess that because 'lower' (= make something lower) is such a common word, this pronunciation for 'lowering' (=a threatening sky) seems like an exception. But thinking about it, it rhymes with almost every other word ending in '-ower' - bower, flower, glower, shower, etc - so it is probably the more common pronunciation that is exceptional.
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_21_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 21:11
Thanks for the PL notes on 20 and I will correct when I record the last few chapters.
On 'lowering', I have been corrected so many times on this that I think I will remember. In my defense, I thought I had remembered, but I looked it up to be sure and found this - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lowering. Unless my ears are playing tricks on me, the audio pronunciation is for 'low' as rhymes with 'blow'. In fact, this looks like a mistake in the Cambridge Online dictionary as the audio does not match the IPA, which is correct.
I guess that because 'lower' (= make something lower) is such a common word, this pronunciation for 'lowering' (=a threatening sky) seems like an exception. But thinking about it, it rhymes with almost every other word ending in '-ower' - bower, flower, glower, shower, etc - so it is probably the more common pronunciation that is exceptional.
Chapter 19 & 20 ready for spot PL
Ch 20 - I have made the changes below - Ch 12 - I have just added 'end of part two' to the end.
Ch 20 - I have made the changes below - Ch 12 - I have just added 'end of part two' to the end.
Newgatenovelist wrote: ↑March 8th, 2024, 2:09 pm Notes for section 20 below. He's messed with Yulada! Noooooooooooo!
intro – as you said, check for consistency about adding III: The Will of Yulada
4.59-5.05
...I might read only sorrow in the denuded woods, and menace in the lowering skies...
Very much optional, but since you’ve corrected for less than this in the past – should ‘lowering’ rhyme with dower, glowering?
5.12-5.16
... I might find the peaks cruelly aloof [heard aloft]...
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19 and 20 are spot PL OK. I'll PL 21 soon.
Okay, this is a good time to ask about it, since you've raised it. I was fairly certain 'lower' had come up before, but I didn't want to point the finger and make it sound as if I were implying 'you MUST get this right, the world depends on it!'. Ultimately it's not going to sour an entire audiobook! But what will help make it stick for you? In terms of my time and not knowing how you best learn I've stuck with a link and left you to get on with it however suits you. Would something else work better?
In case etymology is helpful, the free Collins lower and glower entries have, if you keep scrolling, info that suggests that lower (less high position) and lower (scowl) have different roots, and that the latter could be spelled with a U. That is, we're looking at a homograph not a quirk of pronunciation.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/lower
Derived forms
lowering (ˈlowering) or louring (ˈlouring) ADJECTIVE
loweringly (ˈloweringly) or louringly (ˈlouringly) ADVERB
Word origin
ME louren, akin to lurk, Ger lauern, to lurk, MHG luren, to watch
[1250–1300; ME lour (n.), louren (v.) to frown, lurk; akin to G lauern, D loeren]
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/glower
C16: probably of Scandinavian origin; related to Middle Low German glūren to watch
ME glouren, var. of gloren, prob. < ON, as in Norw dial. glōra, Swed dial. glora, to stare, gape < IE *ĝhlōu- < base *ĝhel-: see glow
[1350–1400; ME (Scots) glowren to glower; akin to MLG glūren to be overcast, MD gloeren to leer]
Okay, this is a good time to ask about it, since you've raised it. I was fairly certain 'lower' had come up before, but I didn't want to point the finger and make it sound as if I were implying 'you MUST get this right, the world depends on it!'. Ultimately it's not going to sour an entire audiobook! But what will help make it stick for you? In terms of my time and not knowing how you best learn I've stuck with a link and left you to get on with it however suits you. Would something else work better?
In case etymology is helpful, the free Collins lower and glower entries have, if you keep scrolling, info that suggests that lower (less high position) and lower (scowl) have different roots, and that the latter could be spelled with a U. That is, we're looking at a homograph not a quirk of pronunciation.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/lower
Derived forms
lowering (ˈlowering) or louring (ˈlouring) ADJECTIVE
loweringly (ˈloweringly) or louringly (ˈlouringly) ADVERB
Word origin
ME louren, akin to lurk, Ger lauern, to lurk, MHG luren, to watch
[1250–1300; ME lour (n.), louren (v.) to frown, lurk; akin to G lauern, D loeren]
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/glower
C16: probably of Scandinavian origin; related to Middle Low German glūren to watch
ME glouren, var. of gloren, prob. < ON, as in Norw dial. glōra, Swed dial. glora, to stare, gape < IE *ĝhlōu- < base *ĝhel-: see glow
[1350–1400; ME (Scots) glowren to glower; akin to MLG glūren to be overcast, MD gloeren to leer]
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Chapter 21 is PL OK. 'Prison'? Ouch! Even if I couldn't see that there were only three chapters left I'd be able to tell that this isn't going to end well.
Chapters 22 and 23 Ready for PL! The final chapter will not be too far behind!
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_22_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 10:43
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_23_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 11:45
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_22_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 10:43
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_23_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 11:45
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Chapter 23 is PL OK.
I forgot to say that several chapters ago I recorded three of the author's poems for the monthly collection as none of his poetry is in the catalogue. The ones I selected had a sort of sci-fi apocalyptic edge to them. Odd, but maybe someone will like them.
I forgot to say that several chapters ago I recorded three of the author's poems for the monthly collection as none of his poetry is in the catalogue. The ones I selected had a sort of sci-fi apocalyptic edge to them. Odd, but maybe someone will like them.
Thanks! Chapter 24 Ready for PL! And that's that! Does it explain anything?
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_24_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 27:34
It's late night here now, but I'll listen to the poems tomorrow.
https://librivox.org/uploads/annise/birdsflysouth_24_coblentz_128kb.mp3 - 27:34
It's late night here now, but I'll listen to the poems tomorrow.
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Possible notes:
intro
heard Stanley A. Coblentz
7.37, omission
For minutes I stood there before her [in silence], burdened with...
Minor, but it depends if you’re rerecording for Stanley/Stanton or getting it from a different chapter!
outro – did you want to add end of part III?
I'll be off LV for a few days at the start of next week.
Wasn't trying to get you to listen to the poems! Only do so if you wish. You adding this to the Newcastle offerings pushed me, is what I meant. I try to add new-in-some-way poems every month to the catalogue, and in this instance it was trying to get some sort of record of poetry given that this author has only had prose, and not much of that, recorded.
As for the ending of this, it was rather abrupt. I know that's easy for me to say given that I wasn't trying to round off a novel about avian humanoids, but it did seem a slightly odd place to end!
intro
heard Stanley A. Coblentz
7.37, omission
For minutes I stood there before her [in silence], burdened with...
Minor, but it depends if you’re rerecording for Stanley/Stanton or getting it from a different chapter!
outro – did you want to add end of part III?
I'll be off LV for a few days at the start of next week.
Wasn't trying to get you to listen to the poems! Only do so if you wish. You adding this to the Newcastle offerings pushed me, is what I meant. I try to add new-in-some-way poems every month to the catalogue, and in this instance it was trying to get some sort of record of poetry given that this author has only had prose, and not much of that, recorded.
As for the ending of this, it was rather abrupt. I know that's easy for me to say given that I wasn't trying to round off a novel about avian humanoids, but it did seem a slightly odd place to end!
Chapter 24 ready for spot PL! I should have included 'End of Part 3' to be consistent, but I recorded 'End of the Will of Yulada', instead. In the interests of getting this finished, I've just deleted it - end of the chapter and end of the book seems like enough to me.
Like you, I was hoping to find out what Yasma looked like when she transformed, so it was disappointing that we didn't get to see it, although there was a hint a couple of chapters back that she just became a bird and flew off with all the other migrating birds.
Ah well! On to Walt Whitman! On the launch pad - viewtopic.php?p=2311259#p2311259
Like you, I was hoping to find out what Yasma looked like when she transformed, so it was disappointing that we didn't get to see it, although there was a hint a couple of chapters back that she just became a bird and flew off with all the other migrating birds.
Ah well! On to Walt Whitman! On the launch pad - viewtopic.php?p=2311259#p2311259