[COMPLETE] A History of the Papacy, Vol II by Mandell Creighton - loa

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » January 26th, 2024, 7:43 am

Hi Pattymarie,

Section 39 is up:

19:40

https://librivox.org/uploads/lorda/historyofthepapacyvolii_39_creighton_128kb.mp3

My best,

Pam

pattymarie · Post by **pattymarie** » January 29th, 2024, 10:17 am

Sections 36 through 39 are pl ok. In the Florentine setting I'm beginning to feel a bit more on familiar ground, at least from art history (Brunelleschi) and I once was somewhat knowledgeable about the rise of the Medici from a course on the Renaissance and Reformation many years ago.

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » January 29th, 2024, 10:18 am

Welcome home and thanks, Pattymarie!

Pam

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » January 31st, 2024, 7:56 am

Hi Pattymarie,

Section 40 is up:

26:36

https://librivox.org/uploads/lorda/historyofthepapacyvolii_40_creighton_128kb.mp3

My best,

Pam

pattymarie · Post by **pattymarie** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:55 am

Section 40 is pl ok. Interesting to get into the details of things I knew the broad brush strokes of. During the pandemic I taught private English lessons for which a taxi took me almost every morning for a ride along the western land walls of Constantinople and past Edirne (Adrianople) gate where Mehmet the Conqueror's forces broke through since sufficient western European help never came. I think the cannon the Turks used to make that gate the gaping wreck it remains came from a Catholic city on the Danube, can't think right now of which.

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 2nd, 2024, 10:02 am

Thank you, Pattymarie. Amazing!

Pam

pattymarie · Post by **pattymarie** » February 2nd, 2024, 3:07 pm

Yes. I'm still sometimes amazed that I actually live here, so even coming back from Paris isn't a huge change in historic and artistic interest of my surroundings. I looked up the cannon and found that it was designed and built by a man named Orban (or Urban) whose nationality is disputed, probably Hungarian, who offered his service's first to the Byzantines, but they couldn't afford them, nor did they have the resources to build such a massive cannon as the Basilic Cannon that Orban eventually built for the Turks. I got the notion that the source of the cannon was Roman Catholic from an embittered Eastern Orthodox writer, but the articles I just found say nothing about Orban's religion.

I must have mixed up the history of the cannon with that of the Bulgarian Orthodox church made of metal that sits beside the Golden Horn on the way to the walls. Its parts were floated down the Danube and assembled at its location here. The cannon was built at Adrianople and dragged by 90 oxen and 400 men to the city doomed for conquest.

Much as I dislike Wikipedia, I give its link as the briefest source giving the essential facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilic_(cannon)

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 2nd, 2024, 5:53 pm

Very interesting, Pattymarie!

Thanks for the link.

Pam

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 4th, 2024, 11:53 am

Hi Pattymarie,

Section 41 is up:

12:51

https://librivox.org/uploads/lorda/historyofthepapacyvolii_41_creighton_128kb.mp3

Now I understand filioque!

Pam

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 5th, 2024, 9:35 am

Hi Pattymarie,

Section 42 is up:

16:26

https://librivox.org/uploads/lorda/historyofthepapacyvolii_42_creighton_128kb.mp3

My best and thanks for of this work!!

Pam

pattymarie · Post by **pattymarie** » February 5th, 2024, 1:42 pm

Sections 41 and 42 are pl ok. Once again the one little thing I thought might be a mistake, turned out to be in keeping with the text. I thought "prince of Christendom" might ought to have been in the plural, meaning the several kings in Europe, but singular it is, apparently meaning the Holy Roman Emperor alone.

Ready for the catalogue.

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 5th, 2024, 1:48 pm

Thank you, Pattymarie!

So much careful listening!

Pam

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 5th, 2024, 1:48 pm

Lorda,

We are all done here.

Thanks,

Pam

pnagami · Post by **pnagami** » February 5th, 2024, 1:49 pm

Note to cover designers.

Feel free to use Annise's cover from Volume I. Just need to make Vol. II prominent in the title...or make a new cover, your choice, of course.

Pam

Post by **lorda** » February 6th, 2024, 8:16 am

I start cataloging.