Complete [Group/Literary Fiction] Joseph in the Snow, and The Clockmaker. In Three Volumes. Vol. III. by Auerbach-ag

[BrianFullen]

Oh you guys!! pass me a tissue!
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_27_auerbach_128kb.mp3
15:57:30

well, if no one else wants to read the rest...

Wunderbar! I really do enjoy the way that you handle the diaglogs: Lenz' with Annele, Kathrine, Franzl and Pröbler. Just reading the text I don't feel that I get an insight into these characters in the same way that I do when I listen to your interpretive (intuitive?) reading of them. So, as I listened, I could not help but think about the fact that Auerbach wrote these books at just about the same time that Sigmund Freud was born! What amazed me about that is that I believe that Auerbach was revealing the psychological makeup of these characters! Like psychoanalysis, but pre-Freudian. As he developed these characters, and as I come to know them through your narration, I feel that they could not help but be anything other than who they are due to environmental and familial influences.

I also really liked Lenz' encounter with the spectral 'old woman', or was she an apparition, perhaps the spirit of his monther, near the end of the chapter. Nice touch, that.

Near perfect recording, Leanne, just these three, minor points to address:

• (00:29) - 'CHAPTER XXVIII. A BEGGAR, AND MONEY SAVED.' [Missing: 'A BEGGAR, AND MONEY SAVED.']

• (07:48, 07:50) - 'As Lenz was so positive' [Repeated]

• (25:03) - 'End of section 6' [I hear 'End of chapter 28']

Thank you,
Brian

Edit: Oh, no, these are of course meant to be PL Notes for section 6, chapter 28!

[LeanneCvetan]

Thank you, Brian, I do so enjoy reading your feedback and kind praise! (Don't stop!)
I will make the changes and resubmit in a few days.
Have a great weekend!

[BrianFullen]

Thank you, Brian, I do so enjoy reading your feedback and kind praise! (Don't stop!)
I will make the changes and resubmit in a few days.
Have a great weekend!

It is your fault (I don't think that's the right word exactly) that you are praiseworthy!

[BrianFullen]

In the meantime, I submit to you chapter 29 for revision: https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_29_auerbach_128kb.mp3
with a whopping 12:5.16 mins --

Feel free to skip down to the really important part, the PL Notes ,,,

OK, so things interest me that don't seem to be of general interest ... ergo ... I must be weird. No matter. I'm over it! I think this is a fascinating chapter! I went back and checked dates. So, Bethold Auerbach and Karl Marx were pretty much contemporaries - only a few years difference in their birth and death years. I'm not saying that Auerbach was a communist because I have no idea what his political and economic views were. Of course in those days there wasn't really an (artificial?) attempt to separate politics from economics. What we call Econ 101 would have been called something like 'Poli-Econ 101' back when this book was written. Auerbach's book was written between Marx' Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital - well less than 100 years after Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. In one short chapter, major characters of this book are discussing what would have been contemporary hot topics of Capitalism, Trade Unionism, Manufacturing / Automation, Employee Ownership, Socialism etc. in a time that all of these would have been of intense interest and debate (maybe they still are) in a place (Europe and, more specifically what was evolving to become Germany) that was pretty much ground zero for these matters. Fascinating stuff! To me, anyway. Perfect title for the chapter: "Another World". Because it must have seemed to the author and his contemporaries that the world was evolving, rapidly, right in front of their eyes (reflected in the eyes of the characters of this book).

Oh, yeah, your reading is fascinating too, Leanne, so, then the meaningful part of this diatribe ...

PL Notes for Section 7 (filename should be clockmaker2_07_auerbach_128kb):

• (05:46, 05:53) - 'Lenz felt it so strange to hear all this, and to be obliged to accept it thankfully.' [Repeated]

• (11:58) - Should say 'End of Section 7'

[LeanneCvetan]

I *almost* added a socialism alert on this chapter, but I don't want to feed any potential trolls who think that Social Democracy is a bad thing, tho this was still before Germany was unified. But I love this novel for its realism.

[BrianFullen]

I *almost* added a socialism alert on this chapter, but I don't want to feed any potential trolls who think that Social Democracy is a bad thing, tho this was still before Germany was unified. But I love this novel for its realism.

Personally, I don't about know goodness or badness when it comes to social, political, economic theory. Maybe, what some perceive as good is perceived as bad by others. Who knows? If pressed, I'd say I'm all for self-determination. When Auerbach wrote this stuff it was pretty much all theory, wasn't it? I suppose what he was trying to do in his own time was apply theory that was then developing and of keen interest to many in his society to circumstance in a fictional setting. Maybe he foresaw what was to be in Germany. Maybe not. I wish I could foresee the future ... it would probably help me with my own investment portfolio.

[LeanneCvetan]

Just as an aside, I have started reading vol 1. I realized I didn't even know who in the world this Joseph is! Gotta find out what his claim to fame is!

[BrianFullen]

https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_30_auerbach_128kb.mp3
22:33

Chapter 30, where the old man only expels hot air to fill up a chapter...

Hi Leanne,

The only change I would have asked for was a revision of your outro such that it would say 'End of section 8' instead of 'End of chapter 30'. It seemed such a small fix that I took the liberty of copying 'Section 8' from your intro and pasting that over 'Chapter 30' in your outro. I hope that you do not mind that I did that revision but if you wish, you can make the revision yourself (perhaps better than I did).

After the edit, I uploaded the revised section 8 (duration same, to the second anyway) using the filename clockmaker2_08_auerbach_128kb.mp3, updated the link in the MW and verified the result before marking it PLOK.

Thanks,
Brian

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that you did a fantastic job on the Petrowitsch character exposition, in my humble opinion.

[BrianFullen]

Just as an aside, I have started reading vol 1. I realized I didn't even know who in the world this Joseph is! Gotta find out what his claim to fame is!

Yeah yeah, sure, do that but when you get to Chapter 14, Lost in the Forest, you're going to want instead of reading it, to listen to the recording at https://archive.org/details/joseph_in_the_snow_vol1_2212_librivox/josephinthesnowi_14_auerbach_128kb.mp3.

The guy who made that recording, whoever he might have been, was simply amazing!

[BrianFullen]

Where is everyone lately?

Here is chapter 31. A lesson in self-pity. Duration: 16:47
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_31_auerbach_128kb.mp3

Section 9 is PLOK!

Hi Leanne,

Similar to Section 8 the only fix needed was to the outro, 'End of Section 9' (rather than Chapter 31). I made the revision using copy from intro and paste into outro. I hope that's OK with you. I uploaded, modified link in MW and verified.

Have (had, by Monday, or whenever) a great weekend.

Cheers,
Brian

[lomond]

Hi Lomond,

I've been learning PL from you for the last 5 months or so. I've been meaning to ask if it would be OK with you if I did some PL on this project. What do you think?

Thanks,
Brian

Greetings -

No problem at all with you doing your prooflistening internship here.

For my reports, the strictest rule that I try to stick to is use this order of comments: a) What they did right, b) what needs their attention, c) what they could do to make it better. This is especially applicable to new readers.

The "pros" don't need as much attention as the newbies.

Sometimes the hardest thing to do is find a good balance with what you should and shouldn't mention that needs attention. I let little things slide by for new readers that I might not do for the more experienced.

Don't get so involved with PLing that you forget to enjoy the book.

Feel free to PM a new reader if they might benefit from your wisdom.

After saying all that, your PLing efforts are looking good.

Lomond

[BrianFullen]

Hi Lomond,

I've been learning PL from you for the last 5 months or so. I've been meaning to ask if it would be OK with you if I did some PL on this project. What do you think?

Thanks,
Brian

Greetings -

No problem at all with you doing your prooflistening internship here.

For my reports, the strictest rule that I try to stick to is use this order of comments: a) What they did right, b) what needs their attention, c) what they could do to make it better. This is especially applicable to new readers.

The "pros" don't need as much attention as the newbies.

Sometimes the hardest thing to do is find a good balance with what you should and shouldn't mention that needs attention. I let little things slide by for new readers that I might not do for the more experienced.

Don't get so involved with PLing that you forget to enjoy the book.

Feel free to PM a new reader if they might benefit from your wisdom.

After saying all that, your PLing efforts are looking good.

Lomond

Thank you, Lomond. I appreciate your advice and will do my best to put it into practice whenever I have a chance to proof-listen. I've been trying to soak up what I've seen in what you do, but that's not nearly as beneficial as getting such clear and succinct instruction directly from you.

[LeanneCvetan]

In the meantime, I submit to you chapter 29 for revision: https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_29_auerbach_128kb.mp3
with a whopping 12:5.16 mins --

Feel free to skip down to the really important part, the PL Notes ,,,

OK, so things interest me that don't seem to be of general interest ... ergo ... I must be weird. No matter. I'm over it! I think this is a fascinating chapter! I went back and checked dates. So, Bethold Auerbach and Karl Marx were pretty much contemporaries - only a few years difference in their birth and death years. I'm not saying that Auerbach was a communist because I have no idea what his political and economic views were. Of course in those days there wasn't really an (artificial?) attempt to separate politics from economics. What we call Econ 101 would have been called something like 'Poli-Econ 101' back when this book was written. Auerbach's book was written between Marx' Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital - well less than 100 years after Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. In one short chapter, major characters of this book are discussing what would have been contemporary hot topics of Capitalism, Trade Unionism, Manufacturing / Automation, Employee Ownership, Socialism etc. in a time that all of these would have been of intense interest and debate (maybe they still are) in a place (Europe and, more specifically what was evolving to become Germany) that was pretty much ground zero for these matters. Fascinating stuff! To me, anyway. Perfect title for the chapter: "Another World". Because it must have seemed to the author and his contemporaries that the world was evolving, rapidly, right in front of their eyes (reflected in the eyes of the characters of this book).

Oh, yeah, your reading is fascinating too, Leanne, so, then the meaningful part of this diatribe ...

PL Notes for Section 7 (filename should be clockmaker2_07_auerbach_128kb):

• (05:46, 05:53) - 'Lenz felt it so strange to hear all this, and to be obliged to accept it thankfully.' [Repeated]

• (11:58) - Should say 'End of Section 7'

Thank you! Here is the re-upload of SECTION 7!
11:55
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_07_auerbach_128kb.mp3

[LeanneCvetan]

Oh you guys!! pass me a tissue!
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_27_auerbach_128kb.mp3
15:57:30

well, if no one else wants to read the rest...

Wunderbar! I really do enjoy the way that you handle the diaglogs: Lenz' with Annele, Kathrine, Franzl and Pröbler. Just reading the text I don't feel that I get an insight into these characters in the same way that I do when I listen to your interpretive (intuitive?) reading of them. So, as I listened, I could not help but think about the fact that Auerbach wrote these books at just about the same time that Sigmund Freud was born! What amazed me about that is that I believe that Auerbach was revealing the psychological makeup of these characters! Like psychoanalysis, but pre-Freudian. As he developed these characters, and as I come to know them through your narration, I feel that they could not help but be anything other than who they are due to environmental and familial influences.

I also really liked Lenz' encounter with the spectral 'old woman', or was she an apparition, perhaps the spirit of his monther, near the end of the chapter. Nice touch, that.

Near perfect recording, Leanne, just these three, minor points to address:

• (00:29) - 'CHAPTER XXVIII. A BEGGAR, AND MONEY SAVED.' [Missing: 'A BEGGAR, AND MONEY SAVED.']

• (07:48, 07:50) - 'As Lenz was so positive' [Repeated]

• (25:03) - 'End of section 6' [I hear 'End of chapter 28']

Thank you,
Brian

Edit: Oh, no, these are of course meant to be PL Notes for section 6, chapter 28!

Whew! here is now section 6. which I almost thought I had lost! but thankfully found it and edited to your wishes, dear Brian. Please handle with care!
25:07
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_06_auerbach_128kb.mp3

[LeanneCvetan]

https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_30_auerbach_128kb.mp3
22:33

Chapter 30, where the old man only expels hot air to fill up a chapter...

Hi Leanne,

The only change I would have asked for was a revision of your outro such that it would say 'End of section 8' instead of 'End of chapter 30'. It seemed such a small fix that I took the liberty of copying 'Section 8' from your intro and pasting that over 'Chapter 30' in your outro. I hope that you do not mind that I did that revision but if you wish, you can make the revision yourself (perhaps better than I did).

After the edit, I uploaded the revised section 8 (duration same, to the second anyway) using the filename clockmaker2_08_auerbach_128kb.mp3, updated the link in the MW and verified the result before marking it PLOK.

Thanks,
Brian

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that you did a fantastic job on the Petrowitsch character exposition, in my humble opinion.

Dear Brian,
THank you got pasting in end of section 8 on this one, but I'm sorry, I don't like it. I did it myself and hope it's ok that I just reuploaded it...
https://librivox.org/uploads/alg1001/clockmaker2_08_auerbach_128kb.mp3
22:26