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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 6th, 2020, 9:12 pm

Will do, thank you.
I'll also look around to see if I can find anything/anyone that can help.
KevinS wrote:
December 6th, 2020, 6:35 pm
FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 6th, 2020, 4:47 pm
Hello friends!

Any ideas on how to read the Greek phrase on page 447? I tried to copy and paste it here but the OCR is not capturing it?
If you would just leave a blank for the time being. I'll see what I can learn.

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Post by pattymarie » December 7th, 2020, 6:48 am

FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 6th, 2020, 4:47 pm
Hello friends!

Any ideas on how to read the Greek phrase on page 447? I tried to copy and paste it here but the OCR is not capturing it?
If my decades past study of Greek retains a degree of accuracy, the phrase should be read as, "tritemorion ton hagron." I think the "e" should be sounded like a long "a" in English as in the word "aim." The "a" is sounded as "ah." I think the "o" would be "oh" and the "i" pronounced "ee." The consonants are pretty much as in English. The "h" comes from the comma above the alpha being a symbol for the "h" sound, which I just learned from trusty old Wikipedia is "a voiceless glottal fricative." :roll:

I wouldn't worry about the circumflexes which "marked high and falling pitch within one syllable" or the acute accent mark which "marked high pitch on a short vowel or rising pitch on a long vowel."
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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 7th, 2020, 7:58 am

Wow! Brilliant! Thank you, this is great!!

pattymarie wrote:
December 7th, 2020, 6:48 am
FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 6th, 2020, 4:47 pm
Hello friends!

Any ideas on how to read the Greek phrase on page 447? I tried to copy and paste it here but the OCR is not capturing it?
If my decades past study of Greek retains a degree of accuracy, the phrase should be read as, "tritemorion ton hagron." I think the "e" should be sounded like a long "a" in English as in the word "aim." The "a" is sounded as "ah." I think the "o" would be "oh" and the "i" pronounced "ee." The consonants are pretty much as in English. The "h" comes from the comma above the alpha being a symbol for the "h" sound, which I just learned from trusty old Wikipedia is "a voiceless glottal fricative." :roll:

I wouldn't worry about the circumflexes which "marked high and falling pitch within one syllable" or the acute accent mark which "marked high pitch on a short vowel or rising pitch on a long vowel."

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Post by KevinS » December 7th, 2020, 8:28 am

pattymarie wrote:
December 7th, 2020, 6:48 am
FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 6th, 2020, 4:47 pm
Hello friends!

Any ideas on how to read the Greek phrase on page 447? I tried to copy and paste it here but the OCR is not capturing it?
If my decades past study of Greek retains a degree of accuracy, the phrase should be read as, "tritemorion ton hagron." I think the "e" should be sounded like a long "a" in English as in the word "aim." The "a" is sounded as "ah." I think the "o" would be "oh" and the "i" pronounced "ee." The consonants are pretty much as in English. The "h" comes from the comma above the alpha being a symbol for the "h" sound, which I just learned from trusty old Wikipedia is "a voiceless glottal fricative." :roll:

I wouldn't worry about the circumflexes which "marked high and falling pitch within one syllable" or the acute accent mark which "marked high pitch on a short vowel or rising pitch on a long vowel."
I'm impressed!
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Post by Eysiss » December 8th, 2020, 7:25 am

Hallo everyone.
Just dropped by to say I'm working on my sect. 33 and not disappeared kidnapped by aliens.
Already recorded it all, just need to fix mistakes, repetition and some clicking here and there.

See you all, soon I hope.
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Post by KevinS » December 8th, 2020, 7:28 am

Eysiss wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 7:25 am
Hallo everyone.
Just dropped by to say I'm working on my sect. 33 and not disappeared kidnapped by aliens.
Already recorded it all, just need to fix mistakes, repetition and some clicking here and there.

See you all, soon I hope.
Emanuela
Great! Thank you for being in touch!
Not feeling well. I'll get back to work as soon as possible. My LibriVox: https://librivox.org/sections/readers/13278

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Post by pattymarie » December 9th, 2020, 1:14 pm

KevinS wrote:
December 7th, 2020, 8:28 am


I'm impressed!
It would be impressive if I'd learned enough to know what the phrase means, but, with just one semester of classical Greek, I haven't a clue to the meaning.
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Post by Kazbek » December 9th, 2020, 4:36 pm

Roots to the rescue! :mrgreen:

tritemorion ton agron

tri(te) = three
mor(ion) = portion, diminutive from the same root as Moirai and Moros (lot, fate)
agr(os) = field (agriculture is a Latin word, but what's a language here or there among Indo-Europeans)

So, a third of the fields.

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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 18th, 2020, 3:23 pm

hello!
I just uploaded section 53 ....
hope it works!!

https://librivox.org/uploads/leni/cambridgemedievalhistory1_53_bury_128kb.mp3

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Post by KevinS » December 18th, 2020, 3:52 pm

FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 18th, 2020, 3:23 pm
hello!
I just uploaded section 53 ....
hope it works!!

https://librivox.org/uploads/leni/cambridgemedievalhistory1_53_bury_128kb.mp3
Thank you!

In future, please include the length (time) of your recording, too.
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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 18th, 2020, 4:05 pm

Will do. Sorry ! :?
It’s 27:40

KevinS wrote:
December 18th, 2020, 3:52 pm
FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 18th, 2020, 3:23 pm
hello!
I just uploaded section 53 ....
hope it works!!

https://librivox.org/uploads/leni/cambridgemedievalhistory1_53_bury_128kb.mp3
Thank you!

In future, please include the length (time) of your recording, too.

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Post by pattymarie » December 23rd, 2020, 12:09 pm

Section 53 PL notes:

The reading of the text is pl ok, but the intro is missing its third section. It needs the addition of "Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 1, Section [number], Section title by [Your section's author], following "please visit Librivox.org." The "section title" is the chapter title in the table of contents plus "part (part number)" if the chapter is divided. This is not required, but many readers have included the chapter number before the title, which this former researcher finds is enormously helpful to any researcher in locating the material quickly.
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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 23rd, 2020, 12:36 pm

Thank you! I will re-upload it with the missing intro parts.
As for the chapter title, since my section is not the first of the chapter should I still mention the title? I ask because the special instructions say not to, if I understood them correctly?
"SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Most chapters are divided into two or more sections. Please read the chapter title for only the first section of a chapter (as marked in the MW.) To simplify matters, we will not be reading a chapter's topics as they are not clearly marked in the text."

pattymarie wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:09 pm
Section 53 PL notes:

The reading of the text is pl ok, but the intro is missing its third section. It needs the addition of "Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 1, Section [number], Section title by [Your section's author], following "please visit Librivox.org." The "section title" is the chapter title in the table of contents plus "part (part number)" if the chapter is divided. This is not required, but many readers have included the chapter number before the title, which this former researcher finds is enormously helpful to any researcher in locating the material quickly.

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Post by KevinS » December 23rd, 2020, 1:08 pm

FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:36 pm
Thank you! I will re-upload it with the missing intro parts.
As for the chapter title, since my section is not the first of the chapter should I still mention the title? I ask because the special instructions say not to, if I understood them correctly?
"SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Most chapters are divided into two or more sections. Please read the chapter title for only the first section of a chapter (as marked in the MW.) To simplify matters, we will not be reading a chapter's topics as they are not clearly marked in the text."

pattymarie wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:09 pm
Section 53 PL notes:

The reading of the text is pl ok, but the intro is missing its third section. It needs the addition of "Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 1, Section [number], Section title by [Your section's author], following "please visit Librivox.org." The "section title" is the chapter title in the table of contents plus "part (part number)" if the chapter is divided. This is not required, but many readers have included the chapter number before the title, which this former researcher finds is enormously helpful to any researcher in locating the material quickly.
patty is a pro and I happily admit that she is right and that my original instructions were not well thought out. If you don't mind...
Not feeling well. I'll get back to work as soon as possible. My LibriVox: https://librivox.org/sections/readers/13278

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Post by FakeBertrandRussel » December 23rd, 2020, 1:16 pm

Sounds great! Happy to! :thumbs: I just fixed it and added the chapter title to the missing intro.
Thanks again for the help!

here's the link,
audio length is 27:53

https://librivox.org/uploads/leni/cambridgemedievalhistory1_53_bury_128kb.mp3

KevinS wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 1:08 pm
FakeBertrandRussel wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:36 pm
Thank you! I will re-upload it with the missing intro parts.
As for the chapter title, since my section is not the first of the chapter should I still mention the title? I ask because the special instructions say not to, if I understood them correctly?
"SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Most chapters are divided into two or more sections. Please read the chapter title for only the first section of a chapter (as marked in the MW.) To simplify matters, we will not be reading a chapter's topics as they are not clearly marked in the text."

pattymarie wrote:
December 23rd, 2020, 12:09 pm
Section 53 PL notes:

The reading of the text is pl ok, but the intro is missing its third section. It needs the addition of "Cambridge Medieval History, Volume 1, Section [number], Section title by [Your section's author], following "please visit Librivox.org." The "section title" is the chapter title in the table of contents plus "part (part number)" if the chapter is divided. This is not required, but many readers have included the chapter number before the title, which this former researcher finds is enormously helpful to any researcher in locating the material quickly.
patty is a pro and I happily admit that she is right and that my original instructions were not well thought out. If you don't mind...

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