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TriciaG wrote: May 6th, 2020, 5:40 pm I'll remove it for you. I see Adam last logged in on the 4th; perhaps he hasn't seen this yet.
That was indeed the truth. Spent May chaotically adjusting to a new job, back in a normal rythmn now to do more extracurricular. Sorry for dropping the ball on this so badly.
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soupy wrote: ↑
Sun May 17, 2020 4:34 pm
Making another suggestion

The Piltdown skull (Eoanthropus dawsoni)

https://archive.org/details/b22441165/mode/1up

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Is that something you'd like to read, or just put down for the suggestion?
A suggestion for now.

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AdamBielka wrote: May 25th, 2020, 9:57 pm
alanmapstone wrote: May 4th, 2020, 12:47 am I have long been fascinated by the poems of Ossian and would like to contribute something. I could read one of the shorter poems.
Would you still be interested in doing one of Ossian's smaller poems?
Hi Adam.
I will have a look and let you know.
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AdamBielka wrote: May 25th, 2020, 10:06 pm
Just to clarify, is the Stoker piece a fraudulent document itself, or an objective descriptive report of someone else's fraud?
The latter.

I realised after I'd posted that I might have misunderstood the purpose of the collection. If you're looking for texts that are fraudulent in themselves, the choice seems to me quite limited. There are plenty of "book within a book" works (like Robinson Crusoe, or Confessions of a Justified Sinner) but that's a conceit, rather than a deceit, on the part of the actual author. Likewise, there's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Chatterton, but I can't find an online text of his faux-mediaeval poems, and they seem to have been understood as his from quite early on.

Otherwise, one's into fraudulent texts produced for political purposes, which is also a limited and potentially toxic field.
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Adam, what a crazy time to start a new job, no wonder you were out of pocket all month! I am definitely still interested in doing the "evil nuns" piece.

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PatrickLondon wrote: May 26th, 2020, 10:29 pm
AdamBielka wrote: May 25th, 2020, 10:06 pm
Just to clarify, is the Stoker piece a fraudulent document itself, or an objective descriptive report of someone else's fraud?
The latter.

I realised after I'd posted that I might have misunderstood the purpose of the collection. If you're looking for texts that are fraudulent in themselves, the choice seems to me quite limited. There are plenty of "book within a book" works (like Robinson Crusoe, or Confessions of a Justified Sinner) but that's a conceit, rather than a deceit, on the part of the actual author. Likewise, there's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Chatterton, but I can't find an online text of his faux-mediaeval poems, and they seem to have been understood as his from quite early on.

Otherwise, one's into fraudulent texts produced for political purposes, which is also a limited and potentially toxic field.
Chatterton would totally count. Faux-medieval poetry that legitimately meant to defraud in its initial publication, even if like Ossian it was still appreciated for its poetic value after discovery of fraud. A nice bite-sized pieces anyway.

Here's a link to Thomas Chatterton's Rowley poems. One of them would do nicely indeed!

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/13037/pg13037-images.html
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Could I take "Lincoln the Lover" (section 5). I haven't read it yet but I want to know what ridiculous thing the author wrote.
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Lector1 wrote: June 27th, 2020, 3:37 pm Could I take "Lincoln the Lover" (section 5). I haven't read it yet but I want to know what ridiculous thing the author wrote.
Yep of course!

It was published in the Atlantic, which is one of my all-time favourite magazines.
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alanmapstone wrote: May 4th, 2020, 12:47 am Hi Adam
This looks an interesting project, if perhaps a bit over ambitious. I have long been fascinated by the poems of Ossian and would like to contribute something, although they probably need a project all of their own. The best known part, the epic poem of Fingal is probably too long for use here. What we could do is to record the dramatic poem Comala as a DR. I could read the Argument, the names of the readers and the Bards at the end. I could also offer to edit the final version. It would need you to create extra sections for the individual characters and to find six other readers which might be rather hopeful. Alternately I could read one of the shorter poems.
Hi,

Still interested in doing one of the short Ossian poems? :)
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AdamBielka wrote: June 27th, 2020, 10:44 pm Still interested in doing one of the short Ossian poems? :)
Hi
I have picked a suitable poem but at present I am rather over committed to other projects so it may be some time before I get round to recording it. Perhaps someone else might like to do it. Text is here:
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Poems_of_Ossian/Colna-dona
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Here's my contribution. I'm really sorry it took so long. I read at a normal pace but it still took me forever to record the thing.
https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/fffn_01_lincolnthelover_minor_lmm_128kb.mp3 (1:16:26)
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I signed up to read "Lincoln the Lover", but something important just came up and I won't be able to do any LV work for a few months. I haven't gotten feedback on this recording yet, but I have until the end of the day tomorrow. If the file isn't good as is, please reassign it. I had fun with this. Sorry I can't do any more work on it!
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Lector1 wrote: July 13th, 2020, 2:05 pm I signed up to read "Lincoln the Lover", but something important just came up and I won't be able to do any LV work for a few months. I haven't gotten feedback on this recording yet, but I have until the end of the day tomorrow. If the file isn't good as is, please reassign it. I had fun with this. Sorry I can't do any more work on it!
I'll take a listen! It shouldn't have to be 100% word perfect. I'm glad you had some fun on this one!
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Here's mine:

Excerpt from Awful Disclosures of the Hotel Dieu Nunnery of Montreal by Maria Monk (1816-1849).


https://librivox.org/uploads/triciag/fffn01_awfuldisclosures_monk_cm_128kb.mp3

13:18

Source: https://archive.org/details/awfuldisclosure00slocgoog (excerpt is Chapter XI and begins at p. 97 of text/page 104 of PDF)

In this case, the author appears to have actually been a real person named Maria Monk; the fraud is that she published the text as a memoir when it was (obviously) made up out of whole cloth.

If you are curious, here's an interesting article about the publication and effect of the Maria Monk book in contributing to the nativism and anti-Catholic sentiments in the US at the time (1830s): https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/03/the-awful-disclosures-of-maria-monk-and-the-origins-of-the-paranoid-style.html


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I would like to post a recording I made of a section of "Famous Imposters" by Bram Stoker. I recorded the chapter entitled "The Hidden King." The book project is now abandoned. When I saw this collection I felt this chapter would fit right in if you agree. Please advise and I will edit the intro and outro to comply with the requirements of this project.

Thank you!

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