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Post by schrm » April 4th, 2020, 1:16 pm

Essays on Art by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749 - 1832). Translated by Samuel Gray Ward (1817 - 1907)


Essays on art, letters, thoughts, aphorisms - Goethe's thoughts were dealing with artworks of ever kind of arts. He addressed the artistic process and even dilettantism in his works. S.G. Ward translated a fine selection of Goethe's publications around these topics. - Summary by schrm
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Post by schrm » April 4th, 2020, 1:25 pm

1. preface 795w

1


2. introduction to the propyleum 6625 6 abschnitte

2.1. 4p until: p5 end of first pargraph ...retained for a few short moments.

2.2. start p5, second paragraph: in early times... end: p9, end of first paragraph: ... and emphasize it accordingly.

2.3. start p9, second paragraph: as a clear knowlede... end: p13, end of first paragr.: ...largely into it.

2.4. start p13, second paragr.: the subject being happily.. end:p17, ...takes this irection

2.5. start p17, 2nd paragr. when we hereafter... end: p21, end of 1st paragr. ...tre love and knowledge of art.

2.6. start p21, 2nd paragr. the history of art... end: p25, end of chapter

6


3. upon the laocoon 4240 4abschnitte 1100w=4p

3.1. start p26, begin of chapter, end: p29, end of first paragraph: ...passion and suffering

3.2. start p29, last sentence: it is a great advantage... end: p33, end of first paragraph: ...unlooked for irrtation

3.3. start p33, last sentence: far be it... end: p37, end of second paragraph: ...what we were to expect when he waked.

3.4. start p37, 3rd paragr.: let us now proceed... end: p41, end of chapter

4


4. the collector and his friends 20abschnitte 1000w=4p ist unterteilt in 8 briefe! der letzte in divisions plus anhang graph (5x4 zeilige gruppen)

4.1. letter 1: start: p42 - end: p45

4.2. letter 2: 12,5 pages 1590w/section

4.2.1. start p45 end: p51 end of 3rd paragr. ...lives of its members.

4.2.2. start p51 4th paragr. my brother in law was... end: p58, end of letter p

4.3. letter 3 start p58 1855w end of letter p64

4.4. letter 4 start p64 9 pages

4.4.1. letter 4 start p64 end p69 end of 1st paragraph ...good child's graces

4.4.2 start p69 2nd paragraph lovers of art after our fashion... end: of letter 4 p73

4.5. letter 5 start p73 9 pages

4.5.1. start p73 end p77 end of first paragr. ...is beauty developed

4.5.2. start p77 2nd paragr. our philosopher had.. end of letter p81

4.6. letter 6 start p81 13pages mini play? or 2 sections

 intro+outro= i, guest, uncle, editor +4 sections 

4.7. letter 7 11pages

4.7.1. start p95 end p101 end of first paragraph ...arise from it

4.7.2. start p101 second paragr. the lady turned round and end of letter p105

4.8. letter 8 start p105 12 pages

4.8.1. start p105 end p111 end of third division

4.8.2. start p111 fourth division end p117 table with 6x4 lines

13 exkl. play


5. upon truth and probability in works of art 2 abschnitte 1200w=5p dialogue + talker+editor

mini play? start p118 end p126

intro, the friend of the artist, spectator, editor +4 sections

1 exkl. play


6. rosalia's sanctuary 1325 start p127 - p131

1


7. simple imitation of nature, manner, style 5*265 1325

start p 132 - p138

1


8. pictures of philostratus  66p x265w = 17800w, 18sections/4p,  2.-3. abschnitt list/overview remarks

start p139 - end p 204

8.1. start p139 - p143 end of first paragraph : ...are also indicated

8.2. p143 start “ancient picture gallery” end: p151 end of lists 

8.3. p151 start “farther elaboration” end: p155 ...even in death

8.4. p155 start “evadne” end:  p159 end of page ...perfection to his picture

8.5. p160 start: beginning of page “prelude of love gods” end: p164 ...in their powerless hands.

8.6. p164 start: “theseus” end: p168 end of first paragraph ...in eternal friendliness

8.7. p167 start “prologue to the expedition of the argonauts” end: p172 end of first paragraph ...orpheus to listen to its tones

8.8. p172 start “jason and meda” end: p177 end of first paragraph ...sight of andromeda

8.9. p177 start: “cyclops and galatea” end: p181  end of first paragraph ...birth of homer

8.10. p181 start: “the birth of minerva” end: p183 end of page ...ability of the artist

8.11. p184 start: “hercules” end: p188 end of first paragraph … examples of this sort

8.12. p188 start “hercules and achelous” end: p193 end of first paragraph ...to crown the victor

8.13. p193: start: “hercules and atlas” end: p198 end of page ...under all circumstances

8.14. p199 start: “hercules and telephus” end: p204 end of chapter and page ...room for quickening

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9. ancient and modern 2915 - 2 parts=5p

9.1. start p205  end: p210 end of second paragraph ...favorable outword circumstances

9.2. start p210 start of third paragr. consider the school of caracci… end: end of chapter p215 ...be it summit or nook

2


10. landscape painting. 2385 - 2 parts 1200w=5p

10.1. start p216 end: p220 end of first paragraph ...and neatly executed

10.2. start p220 “details” end p224 end of chapter end of first paragraph ...profit from the earth

2


11. aphorisms, etc  2385 - 2 parts 1200w=5p

start p225 end of chapter end of p 229

1


12. hints to young artists 1325

start p230 end of chapter end of p234

1


13. upon dilettantism 

start p235 end p263 = 26p 7420w =7sections

13.1. start p235 end p239 end of first paragr. ...legitimation of the same

13.2. start p239 second paragr the artist is born so… end: p243 end of first paragr. ... to produce other effects.

13.3. start p243 start of second paragr. the peculiar want… end p246 end of page … allegory and allusion

13.4. start p247 “dilettantism in architecture” end: p251 … → run easily into caricature

13.5. start p251 “dilettantism in dramatic art” end: p255 end of first paragr. ...of the artist himself

13.6. start p255 “in music” end: p259  ...for card-house architecture

13.7. start p259 “in lyrical poetry” end: end of p263 end of book

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Post by cadastra » April 4th, 2020, 3:44 pm

I would love to DPL.

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Post by schrm » April 5th, 2020, 1:20 am

cadastra wrote:
April 4th, 2020, 3:44 pm
I would love to DPL.
welcome to this project, cadastra!

it is a great relief for me to have some interest and a dpl in the first hours!
a big thank you!

:D

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Post by alg1001 » April 5th, 2020, 1:15 pm

Hi,
I will MC this for you. I'm afraid you will have to use the full disclaimer.
Cheers,
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Post by schrm » April 6th, 2020, 12:54 am

alg1001 wrote:
April 5th, 2020, 1:15 pm
Hi,
I will MC this for you. I'm afraid you will have to use the full disclaimer.
Cheers,
Amy

hi and thank you amy!
i think, this is the first project you mc for me. so welcome! and i'm glad to have you as mc :-D

regarding the intro: that doesn't matter, it was just a thought for making it easier "whereever possible"

thx and
cheers,
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Post by alg1001 » April 6th, 2020, 6:17 am

It is nice to work with you. I will move you to Readers Wanted.

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Post by schrm » April 6th, 2020, 7:02 am

alg1001 wrote:
April 6th, 2020, 6:17 am
It is nice to work with you. I will move you to Readers Wanted.
not yet, please!
i will fill in the mw, but need more time to do that

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Post by alg1001 » April 6th, 2020, 7:10 am

Okay, I will move you back.
Cheers!
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Post by schrm » April 6th, 2020, 7:59 am

alg1001 wrote:
April 6th, 2020, 7:10 am
Okay, I will move you back.
Cheers!
Amy
thank you :D

i will try to hurry up and add some hours of work tonight - thx for motivating me :lol:

cheers,

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Post by schrm » April 7th, 2020, 7:19 am

@amy

hi amy,

i have two questions, because there are two mini-plays in this book with 3 roles plus editor
kevins will be one of the editors, i can do the other editor
there are no cast lists in the book. i will prepare one for the catalogue-page.

1.
so, what librivox-intro and -outro should the roles read? i couldn't find a sample, to be honest.
the normal intro and the editor cuts it all?
or something like: [role-name] read by [reader], this recording is in the public domain - and the editor cuts the legal disclaimer?

2.
since i made a section for each role and editor, the role-filename can be as usual, right?

thx for your answers!
(and after this, i hope we are ready for readers wanted)
cheers,

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Post by soupy » April 7th, 2020, 7:35 am

Can I read Upon the Laocoon all in one go?

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Post by schrm » April 7th, 2020, 8:01 am

soupy wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 7:35 am
Can I read Upon the Laocoon all in one go?

Craig
hi craig,

you can do everything since you suggested this :-)

just to be clear: do you want to claim the chapter with 4 sections, or do you want to read the chapter as one section?
(they all together should be around 4000 words and at this state, i can change the mw to our liking!)

thank you for your claim and
cheers,

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Post by soupy » April 7th, 2020, 8:34 am

All as one section please :D

4000 words is a piece of cake
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Post by schrm » April 7th, 2020, 8:41 am

oh, uhm.. wuw

thank you!


@amy:
please delete sections 8,9,10 - thank you!
schrm wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 7:19 am
@amy

hi amy,

i have two questions, because there are two mini-plays in this book with 3 roles plus editor
kevins will be one of the editors, i can do the other editor
there are no cast lists in the book. i will prepare one for the catalogue-page.

1.
so, what librivox-intro and -outro should the roles read? i couldn't find a sample, to be honest.
the normal intro and the editor cuts it all?
or something like: [role-name] read by [reader], this recording is in the public domain - and the editor cuts the legal disclaimer?

2.
since i made a section for each role and editor, the role-filename can be as usual, right?

thx for your answers!
(and after this, i hope we are ready for readers wanted)
cheers,
soupy wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 8:34 am
All as one section please :D

4000 words is a piece of cake

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