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adrianstephens wrote: January 27th, 2020, 4:42 am
Uploaded Act 1 here: https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3 @ 5:56.

I think I'll need some hand-holding, as this is my first stage directions. I am unsure about how much of the titles to read. For example, do I read the characters in each scene? Do I pretend the Interludes are part of the Act and not separate them? Your and Todd's criticism welcome.
(I've not set the gain on this, as I'm fully expecting to have to rework sections of it.)

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Yes, you read the characters in each scene. In a Moliere that takes the place of saying who enters or has left the stage between scenes. In fact, it is really the majority of what you get to say. As Sonia said, this is not a Pinero.

The interludes will be put in the same files as there subsequent acts (so no separate intro/outro) - and you should just say Act xxx in your intros. But you should read the titles "Interlude" and "Act xxx" during the stage directions so that a listener can see the flow from interlude to act: some of the interludes have continuing characters not in the acts (such as our fair Phillis). I think of the interludes as action taking place in front of the curtain while the stage is being reset.

Oh, And I'll actually be putting Interlude 6 at the end of the Act 5 act and interlude file rather than creating a whole new file for that short act 6 snippet. I'll change the MW to reflect that. (Ignore the presence of the little act 6 snippet in the intro for the combined act 5/6 file.)

Thanks, Todd
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ToddHW wrote: January 27th, 2020, 5:04 am
Yes, you read the characters in each scene. In a Moliere that takes the place of saying who enters or has left the stage between scenes. In fact, it is really the majority of what you get to say. As Sonia said, this is not a Pinero.

The interludes will be put in the same files as there subsequent acts (so no separate intro/outro) - and you should just say Act xxx in your intros. But you should read the titles "Interlude" and "Act xxx" during the stage directions so that a listener can see the flow from interlude to act: some of the interludes have continuing characters not in the acts (such as our fair Phillis). I think of the interludes as action taking place in front of the curtain while the stage is being reset.

Oh, And I'll actually be putting Interlude 6 at the end of the Act 5 act and interlude file rather than creating a whole new file for that short act 6 snippet. I'll change the MW to reflect that. (Ignore the presence of the little act 6 snippet in the intro for the combined act 5/6 file.)

Thanks, Todd
Thanks, Todd. I think I'll have some changes to make. Sonia - please hold your horses for an update.
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adrianstephens wrote: January 27th, 2020, 6:13 am
ToddHW wrote: January 27th, 2020, 5:04 am
Yes, you read the characters in each scene. In a Moliere that takes the place of saying who enters or has left the stage between scenes. In fact, it is really the majority of what you get to say. As Sonia said, this is not a Pinero.

The interludes will be put in the same files as there subsequent acts (so no separate intro/outro) - and you should just say Act xxx in your intros. But you should read the titles "Interlude" and "Act xxx" during the stage directions so that a listener can see the flow from interlude to act: some of the interludes have continuing characters not in the acts (such as our fair Phillis). I think of the interludes as action taking place in front of the curtain while the stage is being reset.

Oh, And I'll actually be putting Interlude 6 at the end of the Act 5 act and interlude file rather than creating a whole new file for that short act 6 snippet. I'll change the MW to reflect that. (Ignore the presence of the little act 6 snippet in the intro for the combined act 5/6 file.)

Thanks, Todd
Thanks, Todd. I think I'll have some changes to make. Sonia - please hold your horses for an update.
Updated stage directions, Act 1: https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3

I'll hold off recording subsequent acts until I've understood that I'm doing what's expected.
I also included 6th interlude in the dramatis personae, you might want to cut this.
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adrianstephens wrote: January 28th, 2020, 3:14 amI'll hold off recording subsequent acts until I've understood that I'm doing what's expected.
good job on the whole Adrian, thank you. :thumbs: You basically only have one major technical error in citing stage directions at the beginning of speeches. All the rest is fine. I don't think you needed to have included the non-speaking roles in the dramatis personae, but Todd can cut those out if needed. Let's not meddle in that part of the text.

So here is what you need to correct:

> at 0:01: "Act 1 of The Princess of Elis" – could you include "the" into the title, it sounds better that way too

> at about 1:45: please also include your voice credit at the end of the dramatis personae: "stage directions, read by Adrian Stephens"

> at 2:41: (p. 30) "Lyciscas, waking" – if the directions are at the beginning of a new character's speech, we include the name of the character. If in the middle or at the end, we leave the name out

> at 2:47: (p. 31) "Lyciscas, getting up"

> at 4:43: (p. 36) "Moron, behind the scenes"

> at 4:46: (p. 36) "Moron, behind the scenes"

> at 4:50: (p. 36) "Moron, appearing without seeing anyone"

> at 5:00: (p. 37) "Moron, turning round"

> at 6:20: (p. 40) "Arbates, to Euryalus"

thank you !

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Kitty wrote: January 28th, 2020, 3:47 am
adrianstephens wrote: January 28th, 2020, 3:14 amI'll hold off recording subsequent acts until I've understood that I'm doing what's expected.
good job on the whole Adrian, thank you. :thumbs: You basically only have one major technical error in citing stage directions at the beginning of speeches. All the rest is fine. I don't think you needed to have included the non-speaking roles in the dramatis personae, but Todd can cut those out if needed. Let's not meddle in that part of the text.

So here is what you need to correct:

> at 0:01: "Act 1 of The Princess of Elis" – could you include "the" into the title, it sounds better that way too

> at about 1:45: please also include your voice credit at the end of the dramatis personae: "stage directions, read by Adrian Stephens"

> at 2:41: (p. 30) "Lyciscas, waking" – if the directions are at the beginning of a new character's speech, we include the name of the character. If in the middle or at the end, we leave the name out

> at 2:47: (p. 31) "Lyciscas, getting up"

> at 4:43: (p. 36) "Moron, behind the scenes"

> at 4:46: (p. 36) "Moron, behind the scenes"

> at 4:50: (p. 36) "Moron, appearing without seeing anyone"

> at 5:00: (p. 37) "Moron, turning round"

> at 6:20: (p. 40) "Arbates, to Euryalus"

thank you !

Sonia
Hello Sonia,

That convention makes sense in retrospect. Here's the update. Hopefully this will work.
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3
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adrianstephens wrote: January 28th, 2020, 4:15 amThat convention makes sense in retrospect. Here's the update. Hopefully this will work.
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3
thank you, yes, now it is perfect :) PL ok

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adrianstephens wrote: January 30th, 2020, 4:44 amStage directions, act 2, ready for pl @ 5:43
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_2_128kb.mp3
thank you, Adrian, another great narrative. Though I realize now that van Laun gives a whole lot of spoilers in these arguments before each act. :? I wonder why he is doing this minute synopsis each time. Did he think people would not understand what is happening else ? :hmm:

you didn't miss any of the echos :lol: :thumbs: Todd, speaking of Echo... how do you plan to do that scene ? Will you be speaking your own echo (I think this would make sense). Or else we need someone else for that role.

I have only two suggestions to correct:

> at 4:07: (p. 43) "the princes of Messena and Pylos" - this may be optional but I hear "princess" (female) here instead of "princes" (male plural) :hmm:

> at 5:18: (p. 46) "Princess to Iphitas" - I think this is a typo here in the book, so it's clearer if we include "to" here

thanks

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Kitty wrote: January 30th, 2020, 5:05 am
adrianstephens wrote: January 30th, 2020, 4:44 amStage directions, act 2, ready for pl @ 5:43
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_2_128kb.mp3
thank you, Adrian, another great narrative. Though I realize now that van Laun gives a whole lot of spoilers in these arguments before each act. :? I wonder why he is doing this minute synopsis each time. Did he think people would not understand what is happening else ? :hmm:

you didn't miss any of the echos :lol: :thumbs: Todd, speaking of Echo... how do you plan to do that scene ? Will you be speaking your own echo (I think this would make sense). Or else we need someone else for that role.

I have only two suggestions to correct:

> at 4:07: (p. 43) "the princes of Messena and Pylos" - this may be optional but I hear "princess" (female) here instead of "princes" (male plural) :hmm:

> at 5:18: (p. 46) "Princess to Iphitas" - I think this is a typo here in the book, so it's clearer if we include "to" here

thanks

Sonia
Thanks, Sonia.
I have no idea why we get the detailed spoilers. That is way above my literature pay-grade. I did count the echoes carefully, although I was in 1.25 minds about how to do this. I made the corrections here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_2_128kb.mp3
My Librivox-related YouTube series starts here: Part 0: Introduction. https://youtu.be/pMHYycgA5VU
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Part 15: Case Study (Poem) https://youtu.be/41sr_VC1Qxo
Part 16: Case Study 2 (Dramatic Reading) https://youtu.be/GBIAd469vnM
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adrianstephens wrote: January 30th, 2020, 7:42 amI did count the echoes carefully, although I was in 1.25 minds about how to do this.
yes, I am suspecting that they may get cut in the end ;) as Todd could probably do a convincing echo. I once played Echo and it was kinda fun. :mrgreen:

Thank you, Adrian, all perfectly corrected and PL ok now.

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adrianstephens wrote: January 31st, 2020, 2:32 am Act 3 stage directions @ 3.28
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_3_128kb.mp3
ah and now you got a straight PL ok. :thumbs: thank you so much, Adrian, great narrative again

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adrianstephens wrote: February 1st, 2020, 6:42 am Stage directions, Act 4 @ 3:23
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/princessofelis_stagedirections_4_128kb.mp3
thank you, Adrian, and another PL ok act :) only one left to go. I think Interlude 6 you can include at the end of Act 5. It's really only a small fragment. I wonder how many act Molière wanted to do for this one :lol:

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Kitty wrote: February 2nd, 2020, 4:36 am I think Interlude 6 you can include at the end of Act 5. It's really only a small fragment. I wonder how many act Molière wanted to do for this one :lol:

Sonia
Yes, I want Interlude 6 at the end of the Act 5 file please - as in MW section note.

Days in the palace gardens were probably long and filled with wine and sunshine, so by the time you got past 6 acts, maybe the actors and dancers just made things up until they were the only ones still awake.

Thanks, Todd
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