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Post by Peter Why » January 25th, 2019, 11:24 pm

Thanks, tovarisch.

thestorygirl; here you go: https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/Are_py.mp3 It's about one minute long.

I think Bill Bryson mentions this business of the pronounced/unpronounced terminal "r" somewhere in his "Mother Tongue", which is a lovely wander through English.

Later edit: Although that is the way I would pronounce those examples ... so it seems natural to me ... I suppose that logically, a terminal "r" would originally always have been pronounced, whatever came after it, and dropping it would have come later. .... and, to my ears "idea" almost sounds as if it does end with an "r"!

Do have a look at Bryson, if the subject interests you on top of trying to get your recording to sound "natural".

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Post by thestorygirl » January 26th, 2019, 5:58 pm

That was lovely; thanks so much! Can I say I'm an instant fan?
I'm so glad you put me on to this author as well. What a great resource to have!

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Post by Peter Why » January 26th, 2019, 11:39 pm

Thank you; when these oddities of pronunciation have been with me all my life, it's sometimes hard to notice them, unless they're pointed out. I read some sentences for a Russian web site on learning English, a while ago, and had to be told not to insert those non-existent R's.

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Post by Peter Why » February 28th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Could someone give me the Danish pronunciation of "Kjökkenmöddings", please?

The sentence is "Do you know what has been discovered in one of the Danish Kjökkenmöddings by a little boy? It was ghastly."

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Post by tovarisch » February 28th, 2019, 5:06 pm

Here is my guess. I believe that the second letter is like 'y' in English and the double 'd' is similar to voiced 'th' (like in 'there'). So, 'KYO-ken-MOh-thee-ngs', except that 'O' is not truly an English 'O', but rather: KYO= KY-U[r], MOh=MU[r] (no 'r', though)

BTW, it's an archaeological term - a heap of shells and bones leftover from refuse thrown out from a kitchen.
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Post by Peter Why » February 28th, 2019, 5:26 pm

That's great, thanks, tovarisch.
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Post by msfry » July 19th, 2019, 11:53 am

I need help with some Latin pronunciations. Can someone reasonably fluent in Latin please send me an audio file. A normal tempo is fine, just one iteration of each, and I don't need a translation (though that would improve my understanding of the piece I am reading, which I would not mind). :) You can upload it to Lynnet. Thanking whomever in advance.

Juventutem egit erroribus, imo furoribus, plenam.

Idem manebat, neque idem decebat.

Ultima primis cedebant.
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Post by Kitty » July 23rd, 2019, 1:38 am

msfry wrote:
July 19th, 2019, 11:53 am
I need help with some Latin pronunciations. Can someone reasonably fluent in Latin please send me an audio file. A normal tempo is fine, just one iteration of each
if you still need this, Michele, I can do a file this afternoon. I can do the classical Latin, if that's fine with you.
and I don't need a translation (though that would improve my understanding of the piece I am reading, which I would not mind). :)
I had a go at it, although I'm not 100% sure, so don't quote me on this (my Latin is very rusty). I think it should mean something like this:

Juventutem egit erroribus, imo furoribus, plenam. - In our youth, with deepest frenzy, we made mistakes aplenty

Idem manebat, neque idem decebat. - it has remained the same, but it was not suitable the same way

Ultima primis cedebant. - the last ones have ceded to the first one

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Post by msfry » July 23rd, 2019, 6:30 am

Thank you, Sonia. I managed to find a friend who helped me with the pronunciation, and the file has already been posted and PL OK'd. I came back here to cancel my request, but could not find my original post. I wondered if maybe I had not sent it.
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Post by Kitty » July 23rd, 2019, 8:14 am

msfry wrote:
July 23rd, 2019, 6:30 am
Thank you, Sonia. I managed to find a friend who helped me with the pronunciation, and the file has already been posted and PL OK'd. I came back here to cancel my request, but could not find my original post. I wondered if maybe I had not sent it.
ok no problem :)

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Post by msfry » August 11th, 2019, 12:11 pm

Anyone know how to pronounce this name, Alveric. It's not a common name that comes up in an online pronunciation guide. Certainly Irish or British, I can't tell, but he's a character in one of Lord Dunsany's books, The King of Elfland's Daughter. All I want to know is if the accent falls on the first syllable, or the second.

AL ver ic
al VER ic
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Post by Availle » August 11th, 2019, 4:14 pm

If you can't find it anywhere, chances are nobody really knows.

Decide for yourself and stick to it.
And if somebody complains, tell them this is how it's pronounced in that little village where your grandmother's uncle had a bakery where the nephew of the mayor came shopping and he was called alveric. :D
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Post by msfry » August 11th, 2019, 6:18 pm

Availle wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 4:14 pm
If you can't find it anywhere, chances are nobody really knows.

Decide for yourself and stick to it.
And if somebody complains, tell them this is how it's pronounced in that little village where your grandmother's uncle had a bakery where the nephew of the mayor came shopping and he was called alveric. :D
Ha Ha Ha. I've been practicing spitting the difference, but I will now enjoy my dinner a bit mroe either way! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Peter Why » September 12th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Hello, could someone help me with some German place names and a personal name, please? Sherlock Holmes has a royal Bohemian visitor.

Gesellschaft;
Papier;
Eglow;
Eglonitz;
Egria;
Carlsbad;
Wallenstein;
Wilhelm Gottsreich Sigismond von Ormstein, Grand Duke of Cassel-Felstein.

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Post by Availle » September 12th, 2019, 4:02 pm

I'm on it.

Here you go:
https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/German4Peter_-_2019sep13.mp3

Sorry for the bad quality, I recorded directly into my computer. With the window open. And it's raining too.
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