COMPLETE[PLAY] Cupid's Whirligig (1607) by Edward Sharpham - thw

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Thanks, Sonia!

My niece was pretty amused to learn that the character is supposed to be from north Wales, which is where she lives, so she really had a laugh exaggerating her natural accent.

As for other theatre groups, I wouldn't be surprised if we are the first to go near this play in almost 400 years. I blame Shakespeare, that total hack!!! :lol:
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RobBoard wrote:My niece was pretty amused to learn that the character is supposed to be from north Wales, which is where she lives, so she really had a laugh exaggerating her natural accent.
oh so that's what North Wales sounds like 8-) will remember the rolled 'r' for when I have to play from that area in future. Although I also do a sort of rolled 'r' by default, whenever I need to impersonate a Celt :mrgreen:
As for other theatre groups, I wouldn't be surprised if we are the first to go near this play in almost 400 years. I blame Shakespeare, that total hack!!! :lol:
LOL could be, but maybe it's the lack of precise manuscripts that deters them ;)

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oh in Act 4, I remember why I thought "parson" was a typo for "person". Because the Young Lord, right before says "Save thee, sweet Lady, I hear thy husband is from home, which makes me come to tender thee my person’s love."

And I thought it fitting that the Lady would reply with the "person" as well. Are you sure they both say different things ? :hmm:

and in act 5, I don't understand your note:
2.58 I incorrectly ascribed a line that should be here to Nan when it is the Lady's: "Indeed I had, before I spent it amongst such unthankful persons as you are, Peg. But I prithee pin my gown close before: for it."
you mean I should read those lines ? It did not strike me as false that Nan was saying them :?

Will wait for confirmation.

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Sorry, Sonia. I didn't notice that you were waiting for confirmation. Yes, please read that line in Act 5. It has been a little while now, but if I recall correctly I noticed the discrepancy upon proof listening: the line that was marked for Nan was actually intended for Lady. And the 'parson' line - I looked at the original script and it is indeed 'parson'. I do not think this is a typo because the line refers to a religious concept, so it may be she is punning on parson/person.

I have more files for you to PL too.

Scholars
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_scholars_5.mp3

Wages
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_wages_1.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_wages_2.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_wages_3.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_wages_4.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_wages_5.mp3

Nucome
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_1.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_2.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_3.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_4.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_5.mp3
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Post by Kitty »

:shock: I see I have my work cut out for this evening.

Will do this Act by Act, so that I don't have to run through this difficult script too much back and forth.

From what I heard in the first Act, both you and Phil are acting out you respective roles excellently :clap:

Still, found something amiss, in each of them:

Nucome Act 1:

> at about 0:49: missing sentence: "Believe it, Lady, this was well done, and like a Lady of a high birth. Make your husband know his advancement"

Wages Act 1:

> at 3:58: "where purest chastity doth shine in spotless robes of splendant majesty" - you say "charity", but "chastity" is what it's all about here, I would say ;)

On to Act 2...

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Act 2 for both Nucome and Wages is PL ok. They seem to have some great double-act dialogues yet again.

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Act 3:

When I heard: "didst thou ever shoot in her", I thought: now the bawdiness has reached the top of the mountain :roll: :mrgreen:

Nucome is PL ok.

One small PL note for Wages:

> at 2:25: "all ill upon her" - you say "an" but this is probably trivial and negligible. Just pointing it out for completeness' sake.

I think I'll mark this PL ok as well, and if you want to change it, let me know

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Act 4

Wages is entirely PL ok

Nucome:

loved the song so much :thumbs: catchy melody

two small notes:

> at 0:26: "Go fetch me my doublet then" - you say "there", probably trivial though

> at 3:28: "you forgot to end your "self-adulation" with "rap, rap, rap, rap" (whatever that means :hmm: - maybe not important either, let's see what Rob has to say about that)

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And finally, also Act 5 checked for Wages, Nucome and the Scholars

Nucome:

I was half expecting you to break into a Doris Day "che sera, sera" :mrgreen: (probably not PD yet)

> at 0:24: "But first I dreamt, I stung you"- you say "flung", but "stung" makes more sense in the flea-imagery

> at 0:29-0:45: "and then me thought....etc is repeated after 0:45 and can be cut out

Wages:

> at 6:14: "only I must desire you not to fail" - you say "sail" which makes not as much sense :hmm:

And last but not least: the Scholars:

well done on the Latin, Stoofy :clap: you make them sound quite mischievous, despite being so learned

I only have one small note, also in fact concerning a Latin word:

> at 0:05: "Nominativo hic, haec, hoc" - you say "nominatio" but he means the grammatical case "nominative" (whether to change this or not, depends on how "intelligent" you want to portray the scholars) Rob, you have a final word in this.

And that concludes all the Acts for today. I need to go to bed now...checking against the original takes more effort than I thought

Well done, you three !

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May I please read Exhibition?

Thanks, Todd
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Post by Kitty »

Lady Troublesome Acts 4 & 5 edited and re-uploaded

I included the sentence apparently wrongly attributed to Nan, but if you really read the entire dialogue in that particular scene, you must admit, it fits more that Nan is saying this. First of all, Nan and Peg are constantly talking together for the last few sentences, so why would the Lady all of a sudden reply to Peg's comments, which give no clue that she was referring to the Lady being full of wit, but more to Nan, since she said the witty comment just before.

Also, Nan being the young "innocent" country girl, would rather complain that she got "corrupted" by being now with people like Peg, and not the Lady, who has been "in the world" already a longer time. And I think the way she says this almost flippant and snappy phrase is totally out of character for the Lady.

I think it was another typo in the script. Writing "La" instead of "Na" can happen so quickly, considering how many typos there were in already. :roll:

But: I included the sentence, and in the end when all is assembled, you can decide what sounds better.

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_lady-troublesome_4.mp3
Recording time: 7:28 min.

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_lady-troublesome_5.mp3
Recording time: 4:48 min.

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ToddHW wrote:May I please read Exhibition?

Thanks, Todd
Thanks, Todd, you're in!

Thanks also to Sonia: I will get around to those comments about Wages and Nucome asap.
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Nucome act 1 reuploaded (we had recorded this line, but I cut it out somehow).

Re: Wages act 3, yes, I think I will leave this as PL OK. I would fix it if there were other more glaring errors in that act.

Nucombe act 4: I think I will leave this one too. The rap rap rap appears to be a stage direction. A bit odd that the author doesn't simply say "knock at door".

Nucombe act 5 reuploaded: repeat line cut out, and flung changed to stung. This must be an error due to the old-fashioned /s/ looking like an /f/. Good catch, and makes more sense now.

https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_1.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/cupidswhirligig_nucome_5.mp3
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RobBoard wrote:Nucome act 1 reuploaded (we had recorded this line, but I cut it out somehow).
ok thanks, Act 1 now PL ok
Nucombe act 5 reuploaded: repeat line cut out, and flung changed to stung. This must be an error due to the old-fashioned /s/ looking like an /f/. Good catch, and makes more sense now.
yes, now it's an excellent "stung". I can mark it PL ok, although, you forgot to cut out the "flung" LOL But since you are the editor later on anyway, you will know how to deal with it. Or to make it easier you can also cut it out immediately and not have to think about it.

What about Stoofy's small Latin error ? Should I make it PL ok anyway ? Maybe you missed my PL note for that one ?

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Kitty wrote: yes, now it's an excellent "stung". I can mark it PL ok, although, you forgot to cut out the "flung" LOL But since you are the editor later on anyway, you will know how to deal with it. Or to make it easier you can also cut it out immediately and not have to think about it.
Whoops! Rather than get Phil to read the line, it was easier to construct 'stung' from a collection of other sounds (editing ninjitsu!). I made a copy of the original in case I made a mistake, then obviously forgot to delete it. I will get rid of it in the final edit.
Kitty wrote: What about Stoofy's small Latin error ? Should I make it PL ok anyway ? Maybe you missed my PL note for that one ?
Sorry, yes, I saw that one and thought I had addressed it, but obviously my memory is failing me. I think I will also leave this one as it is. It's a bit of a palaver to go back to my nephew for one word, and as his reading doesn't sound odd (and even 'nominativo' wouldn't be the exact word today's Latin scholars would use), I think it's fine.
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