COMPLETE:The Dhammapada Translated by F. Max Muller - NF/law

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 14th, 2007, 7:03 am

DSayers wrote:I'd like Section 05.

-denny

All yours, Denny!

Keep on smiling!

Scott

rtperson · Post by **rtperson** » June 14th, 2007, 7:15 am

Chris,

I can't speak for what Scott wants, but I will tell you what I did on part one. I always read what was in the parentheses. When it made sense, I treated what was in the parens like a parenthetical statement enclosed in commas:

"be free from the bonds of Mara (the tempter)."

became: "be free from the bonds of Mara, the tempter."

Often the parens defined some particular Buddhist term, and I'd need to throw in an "or" into the parenthetical:

"A Bhikshu (mendicant) who delights in earnestness..."

became: "A Bhikshu, or mendicant, who delights in earnestness..."

Finally there were those parens that simply clarified the sentence. These I left alone: "cannot fall away (from his perfect state)--he is close upon Nirvana." I simply read this as if the parentheses weren't there.

The main thing is I always read what was in the parentheses. Most of the time they define terms which the casual listener will need defined, and they're part of the translation.

Hope this helps.

Roger

rtperson · Post by **rtperson** » June 14th, 2007, 7:15 am

Scott,

I'll take it. Section 6 is lonely no more.

Roger

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 14th, 2007, 7:26 am

rtperson wrote:Scott,

I'll take it. Section 6 is lonely no more.

Roger

Whoo hoo!!!

All sections accounted for! What a quick li'l project...

Side note: Darwin's observations on vegetative mould and the actions of worms has been discussed over in Short Works/Insomnia Collection... Others around here have found out about his more obscure work!

Take care,
Scott

Post by **chocoholic** » June 14th, 2007, 9:02 am

Off we go to Readers Found!

Måns · Post by **Måns** » June 14th, 2007, 9:53 am

not.a.moose wrote: The thought had crossed my mind, but I'm not quite sure that I want to take that project on quite yet... Just setting up the magic window itself would be an intimidating process!

Heh! Anyone for section 562?

I have 50 sections in my Golden Bough-project, and even that seems difficult to fill up...

But maybe Questions of King Milinda (SBE 35 & 36) could be something to do next? That's another classic text, and one that I think also a non-specialist could appreciate.

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 14th, 2007, 1:10 pm

rtperson wrote:When it made sense, I treated what was in the parens like a parenthetical statement enclosed in commas:

Often the parens defined some particular Buddhist term, and I'd need to throw in an "or" into the parenthetical:

"A Bhikshu (mendicant) who delights in earnestness..."

became: "A Bhikshu, or mendicant, who delights in earnestness..."

Hey Roger!

Just a note on amending texts: while the example above is great for improved comprehension for the listener, of of the aims of LV is textual accuracy, allowing a 1% margin of error. Using this sort of amendment could certainly benefit the audience and generally would not exceed the 1% error allowance.

So, what that means in my opinion is judicious use!

That's about all I gotta say about that. Do it if you think it helps, but don't do it too much.

I don't know what opinion of the higher-ups is... LA? Any input?

Scott

Post by **chocoholic** » June 14th, 2007, 4:54 pm

I handle parentheses just like Roger did -- either read the text straight through, employ a slight pause as if the parentheses were commas, or insert an "or" if it seems clearer that way. We do need to include the text within the parentheses, I agree. I have heard a couple of recordings where the words "parentheses... close parentheses" were used, but I think those were for much longer passages within the parentheses.

So basically, yeah, what y'all are doing is great. Carry on.

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 15th, 2007, 8:46 am

Section 7 is finished! 10:35/9.7 MB

Scott

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 15th, 2007, 8:49 am

Roger,

When uploading Section 7, I noticed that 6 was up as well! Thanks!

Scott

Måns · Post by **Måns** » June 15th, 2007, 11:11 am

I've uploaded section 02 to the server (9,95 MB, 00:10:52).

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 15th, 2007, 11:42 am

Måns wrote:I've uploaded section 02 to the server (9,95 MB, 00:10:52).

Excellent! Thanks Måns!

rtperson · Post by **rtperson** » June 16th, 2007, 7:44 am

Hey Scott,

There's a problem with section 6 -- I read "viz." as "vis-a-vis" rather than "namely." I'm fixing it now and should have a corrected version up in an hour or so. Sorry for the confusion.

Roger

rtperson · Post by **rtperson** » June 16th, 2007, 8:11 am

OK, it's fixed and up on the server.

-- Roger

not.a.moose · Post by **not.a.moose** » June 16th, 2007, 11:07 am

rtperson wrote:OK, it's fixed and up on the server.

-- Roger

Roger,

Excellent! Look forward to listening to it!

Scott