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Post Posted:: March 8th, 2016, 7:24 am 

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Canzoniere (Rerum vulgarium fragmenta), vol 2, di Francesco Petrarca (1304-1374).



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Il Canzoniere di Francesco Petrarca è stata una grande "rivoluzione" nella letteratura europea in volgare: è il primo caso di canzoniere stricto sensu, cioè una raccolta organica di liriche "costruita" dall'autore in una prospettiva di unitarietà.
E in effetti Petrarca, nonostante la intitolasse Rerum vulgarium fragmenta ("Frammenti di cose volgari"; il titolo "Canzoniere" verrà attribuito solo nel XVI sec.), ha scrupolosamente curato per tutta la vita la realizzazione di quest'opera, selezionando, limando, cambiando la disposizione dei componimenti, di cui persino il numero (366) ha un valore strutturale: i giorni dell'anno più un proemio, o dell'anno bisestile in cui era morta la donna amata (1348).
Naturalmente, fiumi di inchiostro sono stati versati per analizzare quest'opera la cui influenza sulla letteratura europea è stata così "fenomenale" da meritare un termine ad hoc: "Petrarchismo".
Ci basti dire qui che il Canzoniere, cantando - col linguaggio più melodico di tutta la lirica italiana - l'amore per un'unica donna, esprime magnificamente il sentimento del tempo. ( Sergio Baldelli)



  • Text source : https://archive.org/stream/rerumvulgariumfr00petruoft#page/n0/mode/2up
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Post Posted:: March 8th, 2016, 7:52 am 

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Eccomi!
I will be DPL-er for this project.
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Post Posted:: March 8th, 2016, 1:52 pm 

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paola toldo wrote:
Eccomi!
I will be DPL-er for this project.
Paola :wink:

Hello Paola,
I am very glad you are DPL!
Many thanks!

Sergio

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Post Posted:: March 9th, 2016, 7:04 pm 
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Hi Sergio,
We would rather not use wikisource. Could you read from this scan from Internet Archive? It appears that volume 2 would begin on page 166-167.
https://archive.org/stream/rerumvulgariumfr00petruoft#page/166/mode/2up
Please take a look.
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Post Posted:: March 10th, 2016, 1:38 am 

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alg1001 wrote:
Hi Sergio,
We would rather not use wikisource. Could you read from this scan from Internet Archive? It appears that volume 2 would begin on page 166-167.
https://archive.org/stream/rerumvulgariumfr00petruoft#page/166/mode/2up
Please take a look.
Thanks,
Amy

Hello Amy,

I chose the Wikisource text for two main reasons:
1. To be consistent with the 1st volume (already completed and catalogued) where I used the Wikisource text;
2. It is based on Contini's edition which for the time being is the best from a philological point of view.

I am wondering what the LV reasons against Wikisource might be. As far as I am concerned its main drawback is not being 100% correct. This is due to the OCR revision process. But I have the original source (paper) of the scan thus, as I carried on, together with Paola Toldo (mi finest proof reader), the check of the recording I corrected the scarce faults of the Wikisource text.

LiberLiber has also an HTML version of the Canzoniere based on the Contini's edition as well: http://www.liberliber.it/mediateca/libri/p/petrarca/canzoniere/html/index.htm

Anyway, if there are mandatory reasons not to use those editions, although I would prefer Wikisource for the above arguments, I have no absolutely binding opposition to read from the text you proposed.

Please, let me know your decisions.

Cheerio

Sergio

PS: I forgot to point out a drawback of the edition you proposed: its readability; the poor scan make it a bit tiring, especially for the check.

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Post Posted:: March 10th, 2016, 7:20 am 
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The main drawback of Wikisource is that we do not know what text they used as a source. It might not be a public domain edition. (Especially since we need to be PD in the USA, and the Italian Wikisource doesn't follow the same copyright rules.)

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But I have the original source (paper) of the scan thus, as I carried on, together with Paola Toldo (mi finest proof reader), the check of the recording I corrected the scarce faults of the Wikisource text.

So you are actually reading from a paper copy and NOT from the Wikisource page? We could approve that. Please send a scan or photo of the printing and copyright information from the paper copy. Put the images in a zip file, and upload it in the uploader using the MC xx-Nonproject.

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Post Posted:: March 10th, 2016, 10:37 am 

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Concerning vol. 2, for the time being, I have not yet started to read from anywhere.

As I said I have got the book source of the Wikisource as specified in the page about the source of the text: https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussione:Canzoniere_%28Rerum_vulgarium_fragmenta%29.
For vol. I read at the same time from this paper book and from the relevant Wikisource page, which I amended when necessary. So, now it is fully correct up to the 183rd poem.

As a matter of fact this book has a copyright of 1964 and 1992 for the last edition as stated at pag. IV; cf. the transcription below:

© 1964 e 1992 Giulio Einaudi editore s.p.a., Torino
Prima edizione "Nue" 1964
http://www.einaudi.it
ISBN 978-88-06-17949-6

In my opinion, at least, the copyright cannot concern the very text of Petrarca who died on 1374. It should cover only the introduction, notes, commentary and other apparatus matter which won't be recorded in LV.

Anyway, if you have any concern about copyright infringements, although with more fatigue, I shall read from the edition you suggested.

A last note about the latter.
In that edition each poem carries: the verse form (e.g.Sonetto, Ballata, ecc.) the ordinary number and a summary of the poem [by the Italian poet Giacomo Leopardi].
Now this stuff is not by Petraca. As appears in its manuscript autograph (Vaticano latino 3195; on which all serious editions are base) the poems have got no title, no number nor summary.
Being myself a kind of poetry scholar, I want to respect as far as possible the author so it must be clear that whatever edition will be chosen I won't read anything which is not from Petrarca. As I did for vol. 1 I will say only the ordinary number and then read the poem.

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Post Posted:: March 11th, 2016, 11:48 am 

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Perhaps I haven't explained clearly enough.
The book I have is exactly the very one on which Wikisource is based.

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Post Posted:: March 12th, 2016, 10:19 am 
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Hi Sergio,
You are all set now.
Cheers,
Amy

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Post Posted:: March 12th, 2016, 12:53 pm 

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alg1001 wrote:
Hi Sergio,
You are all set now.
Cheers,
Amy

Many thanks; we will start soon.

Cheerio

Sergio

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Post Posted:: March 14th, 2016, 1:41 am 

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Well done, Sergio!
PL 01 OK :D


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Post Posted:: March 14th, 2016, 2:06 am 

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paola toldo wrote:
Well done, Sergio!
PL 01 OK :D

Grazie!

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Post Posted:: March 23rd, 2016, 7:59 am 

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Caro Sergio,
Desidero avvisare che ascolterò le quattro registrazioni caricate nelle MW entro due settimane circa.
Buona Pasqua a te e a tutti :9:
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Post Posted:: March 25th, 2016, 1:26 am 

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paola toldo wrote:
Caro Sergio,
Desidero avvisare che ascolterò le quattro registrazioni caricate nelle MW entro due settimane circa.
Buona Pasqua a te e a tutti :9:
Paola

Grazie.
Buone feste anche a te.
Un abbraccio
Sergio

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Post Posted:: April 1st, 2016, 1:22 am 

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Ciao, Sergio!
PL 2-3-4-5 OK.
Rispetto alle altre registrazioni, in queste ho sentito, però, un lieve brusio di sottofondo, credo rumore del pc. Inoltre, come mai nell'introduzione non hai usato la formula ridotta prevista, ma non obbligatoria, per le registrazioni successive alla prima? Forse per conformità con il Canzoniere 1?
Paola :)


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