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I'll claim 49.
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djsmith wrote: August 29th, 2021, 12:30 pm Here is section 48.
7:49
https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_48_adams_128kb.mp3

I would appreciate specific feedback on pacing and pronunciation, especially since I want to be consistent with previous readers.

I looked up L.M. as a currency, but I could not discover what the abbreviation represented, so I read it as L.M. If you know what it means, I will happily edit my recording.
I saw your post, but am not able to PL your recording now, but in reference to your question. I also did some research and came up with the following. We know the £ or L is the symbol for Pounds Sterling. I found the following information:

"The units of account in colonial times were pounds, shillings, and pence (1£ = 20s., 1s. = 12d.). These pounds, shillings, and pence, however, were local units, such as New York money, Pennsylvania money, Massachusetts money, or South Carolina money and should not be confused with sterling. To do so is comparable to treating modern Canadian dollars and American dollars as interchangeable simply because they are both called “dollars.” All the local currencies were less valuable than sterling. A Spanish piece of eight, for instance, was worth 4 s. 6 d. sterling at the British mint. The same piece of eight, on the eve of the Revolution, would have been treated as 6 s. in New England, as 8 s. in New York, as 7 s. 6 d. in Philadelphia, and as 32 s. 6 d. in Charleston (McCusker, 1978)." (https://eh.net/encyclopedia/money-in-the-american-colonies/).

So the one idea I came up with is the L.M. might stand for "Pounds Massachusetts". This is an absolute guess, and pending some more definitive information, I think we will stay with L.M.

edit: I just found this: "In 1770, the market exchange rate between £ Sterling and Mass. £ was 1.25, i.e. one pound sterling was worth 1.25 pound Massachusetts Lawful Money." (McCusker, John J. (1978). Money and Exchange in Europe and America, 1600-1775. The Macmillan Press). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Massachusetts_pound). The math shows that at the 'exchange rate' in 1770 would be 1875 Massachusetts £ (or maybe L.M.?). And his use of the amount of 2000 L.M. could either be a function of a different year than the above, or a little 'rounding up' for effect.

BTW, 49 is all yours. :D

Wayne

P.S. It will be Tuesday before I can get to your reading.
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Based on that research, L.M. could also stand for Lawful Money. I think I would stick with L.M.
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knotyouraveragejo wrote: August 29th, 2021, 3:46 pm Based on that research, L.M. could also stand for Lawful Money. I think I would stick with L.M.
:thumbs:

edit: "When English colonists arrived in the New World, they brought their own money, the pound, shilling and pence. The original thirteen U.S. colonies commonly used British currency and Spanish dollars, but as the economy grew it was clear that there was not enough money in circulation. To address this shortage as well as other issues, colonial governments issued their own paper currency.

"Soon thereafter, The British Parliament passed several Currency Acts that regulated the new colonial money. With exchange rates fluctuating, terms like “Lawful Money” (signified with the letters L.M.), “Proclamation Money” and “Current Money” were print on the colonial currency, indicating that it conformed to legal statutes." (https://libertycoinandcurrency.com/currency/colonial-paper-currency/) [Emphasis added]

Just leave it to Jo to get it right!! :clap:

So Jo, should we change it to Lawful Money?

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Or just leave it as L.M. Up to you. :)
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Thank you for all the feedback! Lawful Money sounds like the right answer, but since even that is questionable, I will leave it LM and let the listener decide. I love this LibriVox community!
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djsmith wrote: August 31st, 2021, 5:35 am Here is 49: (11:29)

https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_49_adams_128kb.mp3
Dori,

Thanks for your great readings. I enjoyed them a lot.

Section 48 is PLOK :thumbs:

However in 49 there is/are one/two things I think you should look at and make a decision on:

1:42.5 they deserve no pity, and are to be treated with contempt and ignominy. I only bring this up because there may be some who might not know what word you said. The correct pronunciation is: ĭg′nə-mĭn″ē. I searched to see if the pronunciation you had was an alternative, but I couldn't find one. So, really your call.

3:41.5 and ignominiously Same situation as above.

Keep up the good work. :D

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Ciufi wrote: August 30th, 2021, 1:14 pm Here is section 61 (6:39):

https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_61_adams_128kb.mp3
Ciufi,

Great job as always! Section 59, 60 and 61 are all PLOK :thumbs:

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Kalamareader wrote: August 31st, 2021, 4:38 pm
djsmith wrote: August 31st, 2021, 5:35 am Here is 49: (11:29)

https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_49_adams_128kb.mp3
Dori,

Thanks for your great readings. I enjoyed them a lot.

Section 48 is PLOK :thumbs:

However in 49 there is/are one/two things I think you should look at and make a decision on:

1:42.5 they deserve no pity, and are to be treated with contempt and ignominy. I only bring this up because there may be some who might not know what word you said. The correct pronunciation is: ĭg′nə-mĭn″ē. I searched to see if the pronunciation you had was an alternative, but I couldn't find one. So, really your call.

3:41.5 and ignominiously Same situation as above.

Keep up the good work. :D

Wayne
Wow, I have always struggled with that word! Here is the corrected recording (with several practice attempts): https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_49_adams_128kb.mp3.

May I claim 50?
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djsmith wrote: September 2nd, 2021, 4:48 am Wow, I have always struggled with that word! Here is the corrected recording (with several practice attempts): https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_49_adams_128kb.mp3.

May I claim 50?
I understand. To me it is kind of like the word "miscellany". The correct pronunciation just can't be right. :?

Both corrections are seamless. Great job. Section 49 is PLOK :thumbs:

And of course you can claim 50.

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djsmith wrote: September 3rd, 2021, 5:06 am Section 50 (13:27)
https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_50_adams_128kb.mp3
Your noise levels were much better. I heard one small thing you might want to look at:

11:12.5 "the people of Ireland were under the same mistake" I will leave this one up to you. You left out the word “the”. It does kind of make a small difference, through emphasis. Your call.

Great reading. Claim more if you would like :D .

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Kalamareader wrote: September 3rd, 2021, 1:38 pm
djsmith wrote: September 3rd, 2021, 5:06 am Section 50 (13:27)
https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_50_adams_128kb.mp3
Your noise levels were much better. I heard one small thing you might want to look at:

11:12.5 "the people of Ireland were under the same mistake" I will leave this one up to you. You left out the word “the”. It does kind of make a small difference, through emphasis. Your call.

Great reading. Claim more if you would like :D .

Wayne
Here is the corrected 50: https://librivox.org/uploads/linny/samueladamsv2_50_adams_128kb.mp3
Thanks for the feedback. Had you noticed noise level issues in previous submissions?

I'll claim 51, please.
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