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Post by KevinS » January 3rd, 2020, 7:19 pm

Jmbau13 wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 7:11 pm
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January 2nd, 2020, 9:13 pm
Section 17

A tiny bit uncertain of some of the pronunciations.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_17_osler_128kb.mp3 14:06
I am not surprised - you really copped a mouthful with all the various names, languages and their pronunciations, not to mention the archaic language! I think overall you did a fine job with a difficult chapter.

Need to fix:
~ 6.20 You have read Louis instead of Louise as the text says; this does change the meaning (ie, the gender of the person)
~8.19 the faculty negatived (you read negativised)
~ 11.30 ... untrammelled study of nature (I heard untrampled)
~ 13.35 pronunciation of Hippocrates, as he is so central to the whole topic. There's some useful examples of how to say it here: https://youglish.com/pronounce/hippocrates/english/us?

FYI only (I know you like to know, and your choice if you alter or not), these ones I can help with:
- Rabelais is French, so the final 'lais' is most properly said as 'lay' ie, doesn't sound the 's'
- physiognomy has a silent 'g'
- Cecco (in Cecco d'Ascoli) is said as 'Check-oh', ie, 'ch' to start, not the soft s sound.
Hahah! You're too kind!

I'll try to get all it cleaned up.

I was confused about Louise. I recorded both versions---male [sic] and female---but later thought the text refer to this person as a man.

I have never heard 'negatived' in my whole life! (Does this mean 'negated'?)

I knew about Cecco. I don't know where my 'secco' came from. Thirst?

Etc. Blah, blah. Why am I defending myself? Hahaha!

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Post by Castellan » January 4th, 2020, 12:39 pm

I would like to claim:

Section 13 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, South Italian School, Byzantine Medicine
Section 14 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, Arabian Medicine
Section 16 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, Mediaeval Medical Studies, Mediaeval Practice

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Post by YuqingJune » January 4th, 2020, 4:22 pm

Castellan wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 12:39 pm
I would like to claim:

Section 13 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, South Italian School, Byzantine Medicine
Section 14 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, Arabian Medicine
Section 16 Chapter III — MEDIAEVAL MEDICINE, Mediaeval Medical Studies, Mediaeval Practice

Castellan
All yours! Thank you Castellan!
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Post by Jmbau13 » January 4th, 2020, 8:01 pm

KevinS wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 7:19 pm

Hahah! You're too kind!

I'll try to get all it cleaned up.

I was confused about Louise. I recorded both versions---male [sic] and female---but later thought the text refer to this person as a man.

I have never heard 'negatived' in my whole life! (Does this mean 'negated'?)

I knew about Cecco. I don't know where my 'secco' came from. Thirst?

Etc. Blah, blah. Why am I defending myself? Hahaha!
I had never heard 'negatived' in my whole life either, and think it pretty unlikely I shall again. :lol: According to impeccable online sources (not! :lol: ) it seems to mean 'refused to accept/reject'.
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Post by YuqingJune » January 8th, 2020, 5:42 pm

Thanks a lot! :wink:
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Post by Jmbau13 » January 11th, 2020, 8:17 pm

Thank you Rita. PL OK. :clap:
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Post by YuqingJune » January 12th, 2020, 6:22 pm

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Post by Availle » January 12th, 2020, 7:07 pm

Wow, everything claimed! Well, off to "Readers Found" then! :thumbs:
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Post by EltonTheSnowman » January 15th, 2020, 8:48 am

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Post by Jmbau13 » January 15th, 2020, 9:52 pm

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Post by Jmbau13 » January 15th, 2020, 9:54 pm

Jmbau13 wrote:
January 15th, 2020, 9:52 pm
YuqingJune wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 6:22 pm
Section 00 is ready for PL! :)

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_00_osler_128kb.mp3

Duration - 7:24
This is nicely read and in a clear voice.
A few issues:
~ Final silence is not even 1 sec; needs to be 5 full secs
~ 1.52 printed text says "the adaptation of the text ..." but I hear adaption; I don't think it's critical, nor is the meaning altered so optional, I merely mention it
~ 3.14 printed text says "Ostler's wide culture..." but I hear wise culture
~05.20 You have omitted the F.H.G. which indicates who wrote the introduction.
I know the decision was made not to include footnotes, but not indicating quotes or who said what I cannot like. The remainder of the intro is a series of 5 different quotes by 5 different people. But as read, there is zero indication of that and I don't think anyone listening would know at this point what they were listening to. Combined combined with the omission of F.H.G. and at a minimum, none of their names, I became very confused as to who was saying what. I cannot like it as is. I think the reading should indicate they are quotes and give the name of the person after each.
You may find it interesting to listen to how Larry treated the issue of quotes in #25, which makes it very clear.
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Post by silverquill » January 17th, 2020, 10:20 am

Here we have the final two sections - one long, one short. Important historical account of the impact of sanitation and vector contro,, battles still being waged around the world. Clean water is the crying need in so many places, like Haiti where I did medical work for four years, and where malaria and dengue fever are still major diseases, as are dysentery and even tuberculosis. I also found it interesting the beribeir is mentioned as a tropical disease, although we now know it to be a vitamin deficiency of Thaiamine, B1. Some of the oldest health battles are still with us, and new scourges like HIV have hit us hard globally.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_26_osler_128kb.mp3 29:20
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_27_osler_128kb.mp3 3:50

~Larry

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Post by Jmbau13 » January 17th, 2020, 7:53 pm

EltonTheSnowman wrote:
January 15th, 2020, 8:48 am
Section 7 ready for PL:

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_07_osler_128kb.mp3
(18:32)
Nicely read, good clear voice.
Issues:
* You have omitted many of the various poetry quotes - those at the chapter beginning (~0.36 x 2, ~ 1.02 and Arnold ~ 13.34 . Quotes are something the author chose to include to make his points - they are to be read.
* Your final silence is too short - a full 5 secs is required here.

Around ~ 4.00 and going forward there is some excessive mike noise or distortion. But the most significant issue is the many loud plosives (eg, 5.37, 8.03, 8.05, 8.14, 8.15, 8.54, 9.01 but many many others), which detract from the otherwise lovely reading.
Now, the 1 minute test is intended to pick up those early (among other issues) but they weren't in your original test, whereas they are almost everywhere here. What has changed? Can you return to the much better quality of your test recording? You may, for example, find experimenting with a different position of the mike and/or a P filter will avoid this in your future recordings? I had a bad problem with them myself, but altering mike position as well as a P filter has fixed it.
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Post by Jmbau13 » January 17th, 2020, 9:44 pm

silverquill wrote:
January 17th, 2020, 10:20 am
Here we have the final two sections - one long, one short. Important historical account of the impact of sanitation and vector contro,, battles still being waged around the world. Clean water is the crying need in so many places, like Haiti where I did medical work for four years, and where malaria and dengue fever are still major diseases, as are dysentery and even tuberculosis. I also found it interesting the beribeir is mentioned as a tropical disease, although we now know it to be a vitamin deficiency of Thaiamine, B1. Some of the oldest health battles are still with us, and new scourges like HIV have hit us hard globally.

https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_26_osler_128kb.mp3 29:20
https://librivox.org/uploads/availle/evolutionmodernmedicine_27_osler_128kb.mp3 3:50

~Larry
Thanks Larry, I put them in the MW and PL'd the shorter one, which is perfect. I'll do the longer one next.
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