[COMPLETE] Troilus and Cressida by William Shakespeare - kit

Hamlet · Post by **Hamlet** » October 5th, 2018, 12:08 pm

Hmm, no answer to my query about the bear in "Winter's Tale."

Brad

Post by **Kitty** » October 5th, 2018, 2:38 pm

Hamlet wrote: ↑October 5th, 2018, 12:08 pmHmm, no answer to my query about the bear in "Winter's Tale."

oh sorry, must have missed that one. Well...the bear was discussed, I remember that. But somehow in the end nobody came up with a suitable bear sound (and none of us had any pet-bears to record

) so we let it slip in the end and the narrator did his duty.

Sonia

WiltedScribe · Post by **WiltedScribe** » October 5th, 2018, 6:20 pm

Here is the rest of Troilus:

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_1.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_2.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_3.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_4.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_6.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_troilus_5_10.mp3

I hope I conveyed his general arc from boyishness to bitterness convincingly.

I think there's a hint of Achilles' bloodlust in his final scenes, too. My voicing both gives them a spiritual coupling, which is what I think I wanted to do from the beginning?

Also, is it just me, or did Shakespeare want Troilus to be played somewhat hysterically? The "False, false, false!" line in 5.2 is practically begging for the actor to start writhing on the floor in agony LOL.

I really did not want to overact Troilus and make him some bug-eyed madman after the Cressida/Diomedes encounter. I saved that for Achilles, who suffered a much greater loss in Patroclus (in my opinion).

Sonia, if you think my Troilus is off in some way, please tell me and I can re-do what you feel is not working. Otherwise, if it's all OK, all we have left is the editing.

Post by **Kitty** » October 6th, 2018, 4:54 am

wonderful job, Tomas

apart from 5.2. all are PL ok. I think you managed the growing despair in this scene quite well, where he has to watch Cressida and Diomed. And I have to ask: so what important letters did you tear to get this special effect ?

works excellently

here some notes for 5.2.

> at 1:37: "Wert thou the devil and wor’st it on thy horn" - you pronounce this like "bad/worse/worst" but actually it means "he wears it/he wore it on his horn" (Diomedes said this right before your speech) - so you "wore-st" it would be more accurate

> at 3:29: "Bi-fold authority!" - I hear "fooled" but I may be mistaken

> at 5:30: "O Cressid! O false Cressid! false, false, false!
Let all untruths stand by thy stained name,
And they’ll seem glorious."

Also, is it just me, or did Shakespeare want Troilus to be played somewhat hysterically? The "False, false, false!" line in 5.2 is practically begging for the actor to start writhing on the floor in agony LOL. I really did not want to overact Troilus and make him some bug-eyed madman after the Cressida/Diomedes encounter. I saved that for Achilles, who suffered a much greater loss in Patroclus (in my opinion).

actually, the rolling-on-the-floor might have been a good idea. After all, Ulysses tells him to "contain himself", maybe he was really close to madness at that point. You sound a bit too composed already for Ulysses to warrant such a reply. I would rip loose here, at least for these 3 lines

This is a sort of culminating point for Troilus and after that, he can be composed again

So all the other scenes are ready to edit already. Guys, bring them on, and I try to do my two remaining scenes as well over the weekend.

We started this project on 7th August. Took us exactly 2 months to record them all. Good job !

Sonia

WiltedScribe · Post by **WiltedScribe** » October 6th, 2018, 10:57 am

Thank you for the feedback, Sonia!

Your comments regarding "False, false, false!" were exactly what I was looking for. I had originally recorded the lines as you suggested I should, but somehow I thought I was overacting. I thought maybe a quieter note of despair would be more effective, but you're right, such a quiet note would make Ulysses' response sound odd. So I went for a louder tone now. The corrected file has been re-uploaded.

I think I'm done recording for the weekend, as I'll be celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving. I should have some time to edit, though. I'm a bit behind here.

Post by **Kitty** » October 6th, 2018, 11:07 am

WiltedScribe wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 10:57 amThank you for the feedback, Sonia! Your comments regarding "False, false, false!" were exactly what I was looking for. I had originally recorded the lines as you suggested I should, but somehow I thought I was overacting.

how long have you been in this group already ? You must know by now that "overacting" is a point that can hardly be reached for our standards

I thought maybe a quieter note of despair would be more effective, but you're right, such a quiet note would make Ulysses' response sound odd. So I went for a louder tone now. The corrected file has been re-uploaded.

YES ! this does the trick. Now Ulysses has a reason to give the guy some valium

PL ok now

I think I'm done recording for the weekend, as I'll be celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving. I should have some time to edit, though. I'm a bit behind here.

we have time, not to worry. Each of us still has a few scenes to edit. If needs be I can help out a bit, since I only have two scenes.

Guys, please let me all know once you start editing one of your sections. If ever I have time and want to help, I don't want to run the risk of doing work that you are doing already.

Sonia

Craigos · Post by **Craigos** » October 6th, 2018, 12:34 pm

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_2_2_shakespeare.mp3 12:52

Hamlet · Post by **Hamlet** » October 6th, 2018, 12:36 pm

No worries with mine, Sonia. Because here is everything I was assigned unless I missed something.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_1_1.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_4_2.mp3
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_4_3.mp3

Brad

Post by **Kitty** » October 6th, 2018, 12:46 pm

I see I have PL work to do !! but not tonight.

Thanks, Craig and Brad !

Sonia

WiltedScribe · Post by **WiltedScribe** » October 6th, 2018, 12:50 pm

Thanks, guys!

Sonia, don't worry about editing together the final acts once all the scenes are ready. I can take care of that.

Post by **Kitty** » October 6th, 2018, 12:52 pm

WiltedScribe wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 12:50 pm Sonia, don't worry about editing together the final acts once all the scenes are ready. I can take care of that.

yes I would prefer not to do that, because then I can check them one final time. Thanks.

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » October 7th, 2018, 10:46 am

Craigos wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 12:34 pm https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_2_2_shakespeare.mp3 12:52

Craig, your section is excellently edited. I only made one pause a bit shorter and I amplified my Cassandra outside a little bit or she would be barely heard in her ravings

But careful, check your settings ! Your file had a variable bitrate for some reason

I changed this too and reuploaded. It's PL ok now.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_2_2_shakespeare.mp3

Tomas, I think Act 2 is ready to be assembled. Take care to download the newly uploaded scene 2.2. in case you already downloaded a previous version. You can assemble the whole act and I listen one final time then.

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » October 7th, 2018, 11:02 am

Hamlet wrote: ↑October 6th, 2018, 12:36 pm No worries with mine, Sonia. Because here is everything I was assigned unless I missed something.
https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_1_1.mp3

I at least already checked 1.1. and this is PL ok. I only made the pause a bit longer each time the narrator spoke right after Troilus, especially because Tomas did both. So this scene is reuploaded once more as well.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_1_1.mp3

Tomas, Act 1 is also ready for final assembly.

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » October 7th, 2018, 12:14 pm

I managed to finish my short scene 5.4. at least. If someone could spare the time to PL it. It's basically a dialogue between Tomas and Brad, or a monologue between Brad and Brad in diverse roles

Although Brad is three persons in this short scene, I managed to keep them apart.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_5_4.mp3
Recording time: 2:29 min.

Sonia

Post by **Kitty** » October 7th, 2018, 12:37 pm

and my final scene assembled and ready for PL. Luckily they were both short.

https://librivox.org/uploads/kitty/troilusandcressida_5_6.mp3
Recording time: 2:35 min.

I can't help it but I absolutely adore ruffian Ajax

he's like a bulldozer all through the play.

Sonia