Multilingual Short Works Collection 022 - Poetry & Prose - thw

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Post by Kitty » June 18th, 2019, 2:10 am

J_N wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 2:01 am
I listened to your recording and after checking with a professional Japanese recording, the 通 in the first line is apparently read "kayo" rather than "tsuu". For me personally, it doesn't make a difference, but it might for a native speaker.

Everything else is PL:OK. :thumbs:
thank you for your help, Julia :9: I'll mark it PL notes for the moment, until we hear back from the reader.

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Post by Lucasoliveira » June 19th, 2019, 4:39 pm

J_N wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 2:01 am
Lucasoliveira wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 2:27 pm
Hi!Here is my contribution: (I'm from Brazil, but I'm on a trip in Uruguay, so I think this is PD from me) :D
  • Duration of recording (mm:ss) - 00:55
  • Title of work - こころ通はざる日に
[...]
Hi,

I listened to your recording and after checking with a professional Japanese recording, the 通 in the first line is apparently read "kayo" rather than "tsuu". For me personally, it doesn't make a difference, but it might for a native speaker.

Everything else is PL:OK. :thumbs:
Fantastic! :lol:
Thank you so much

I talked with a japanese and she said the right pronunciation in this case is kayo, and the sentence don't make sense when read tsu.

I'll correct it as soon as possible!

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Post by irondog70 » June 30th, 2019, 11:02 am

Hi all,
I'll try to add a few of my recorded poems from a full LV volume on one of the greatest Romanian poets, Mihai Eminescu.
Here is the link to the full text on Gutenberg website: http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35323/pg35323-images.html
The first poem is called "Glossa", uploaded here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_glossa_eminescu_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration:5:21
Second one, "Mai Am Un Singur Dor":
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_maiamunsingurdor_eminescu_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration:2:16
Thank you :)
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Post by Kitty » June 30th, 2019, 11:07 am

irondog70 wrote:
June 30th, 2019, 11:02 am
I'll try to add a few of my recorded poems from a full LV volume on one of the greatest Romanian poets, Mihai Eminescu.
sorry, maybe I misunderstood... but is this the same recording you are including in your Solo on Eminescu ? If so we cannot use it here in this project. We have the LV policy that each recorded section can only be used once, in one project. No doubling in other projects.

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Post by irondog70 » June 30th, 2019, 11:09 am

No problemo! Lol! I'll do another one then. ;)
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Post by Kitty » June 30th, 2019, 11:11 am

irondog70 wrote:
June 30th, 2019, 11:09 am
No problemo! Lol! I'll do another one then. ;)
yes I'm sure there is a lot more unrecorded Romanian poetry out there 8-) Thank you for thinking about this project though. Sorry it couldn't be included.

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Post by irondog70 » July 2nd, 2019, 3:15 pm

Hi Sonia,
Here I am again.
This is a poem by George Cosbuc (1866-1918), a Romanian poet.
More info here:
https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Autor:George_Co%C8%99buc
Sorry I couldn't find him on Gutenberg or on other well known internet archive, but he's 100% in the public domain, everywhere in the World now.
The poem is called "El-Zorab" and was uploaded here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_elzorab_cosbuc_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration:9:35
Hopefully works this time.
Thank you :)
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Post by irondog70 » July 2nd, 2019, 3:27 pm

Poem title: Lordul John
Language: Romanian
By George Cosbuc
https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Lordul_John

uploaded here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_lorduljohn_cosbuc_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration: 2:46

Thank you.
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Post by irondog70 » July 2nd, 2019, 3:47 pm

Poem title: Lupul, tapul si varza
Language: Romanian
Author: Anton Pann(1796-1854)
Source: https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Autor:Anton_Pann
Uploaded here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_lupultapulsivarza_pann_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration: 2:28

:)
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Post by irondog70 » July 2nd, 2019, 4:05 pm

Poem title: Iarna pe ulita
Language: Romanian
By George Cosbuc (1866-1918)
text here;
https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Iarna_pe_uli%C8%9B%C4%83
Uploaded here:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_iarnapeulita_cosbuc_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration: 4:43

Thank you :)
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Post by Kitty » July 3rd, 2019, 3:59 am

irondog70 wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 3:27 pm
Poem title: Lordul John
By George Cosbuc
https://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Lordul_John
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/msw022_lorduljohn_cosbuc_cn_128kb.mp3
Duration: 2:46
thank you for this contribution. Unfortunately wikisource is never a reliable source to check whether a text is public domain. :? We only accept those texts that have the actual scan included. Now I checked on this link you gave me, I don't speak enough Romanian, so maybe I missed the link to the scan, but (after spending an hour or so) I found an old version online on archive of this poem !

here is the book scan: https://archive.org/details/VersurisiProza
here the page where it's clearly stated that it was published before 1923: https://ia802808.us.archive.org/21/items/VersurisiProza/CR-XIX-I-96_0010.jpg
and here the poem over 3 pages:
https://ia802808.us.archive.org/21/items/VersurisiProza/CR-XIX-I-96_0041.jpg
https://ia802808.us.archive.org/21/items/VersurisiProza/CR-XIX-I-96_0042.jpg
https://ia902808.us.archive.org/21/items/VersurisiProza/CR-XIX-I-96_0043.jpg

So this is acceptable, with a few corrections. I found 4 significant deviations from the original text in your recording. So you can see that wikisource is not very reliable for the accurate scanned text ;) I didn't count the numerous different spellings as I thought it's probably only an old spelling but the word is the same, but the 4 sentences seem to me to be too different to ignore.

So could you correct these please:

> at 0:31: “Pleacă-repede călare Să găsească pe bărbat” – you say: “Pleacă-n grabă ca să vadă Dacă e adevărat.” –
> at 1:05: “Și, cu vorbe scurte Intră lordul John in curte“ – you say: “Și, ochindu-l bine, Lordul drept spre dânsul vine”
> at 1:43: “Și ‘n orbite ochii-I ard.” – you say: “Simte palmele că-i ard,”
> at 2:13: “Spune, ce mai vrei cu mine ?” – you say: “Auzi tu, cu ce gând vine!“
> at 2:24-2:26: the pause here seems a bit long to me, anything over 1.5 seconds feels long to a listener. I would probably cut this a bit

Thank you

As for your other two texts, I'm very sorry, again, I didn't find a link to the scanned source in your wikisource link, and I checked a bit on archive.org, but couldn't find any other version of the poem either. So unless you find a PD source, we cannot accept those two. :( Best thing is always to search on archive, where you see the date printed in the actual book. Gutenberg is also a reliable source, but unfortunately they only have 2 Romanian books there so far.

If in doubt, please post your link here, before you record, then we can check and you won't have invested time for nothing.

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Post by ToddHW » July 3rd, 2019, 4:05 am

We need a link to a scan or definite PD source such as Gutenberg: the link has to go into the Librivox database metadata source link for each item in a collection. Wikisource does not suffice unless it is a document scan with date information - almost anyone can upload a file to wikisource.

It really is up to you to find a provably PD source to reference before we can add these to the collection.

Thanks, Todd

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Post by irondog70 » July 3rd, 2019, 9:23 am

Hi Sonia and Todd,
I'll search for a better link. He died in 1918 for sure.
Sonia, there might be more than one version of the "Lordul John". I'll re-record the version you found on the archive.org, unless I can show you another.
Thank you for all the time invested.
I'll be back :)
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Post by irondog70 » July 3rd, 2019, 10:09 am

Hi guys,
It seems that librivox has accepted previous recordings from George Cosbuc, with wiki links provided, as you can see in here:
https://librivox.org/christmas-short-works-collection-2015/
and here:
https://librivox.org/multilingual-poetry-collection-016-by-various/
Also, here are a few other internet websites, that show George Cosbuc and his poetry:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hnle7p&view=1up&seq=7
http://www.romanianvoice.com/poezii/poeti/cosbuc.php
http://poetii-nostri.ro/george-cosbuc-autor-12/
http://www.povesti-pentru-copii.com/poezii-pentru-copii/george-cosbuc.html
http://www.versuri-si-creatii.ro/poezii/c/george-cosbuc-8zudtpu/
http://www.poezii.md/poet/george-cosbuc/
All of my uploaded poems could be found in many of these sites.

Advice?
Thank you :)
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Post by irondog70 » July 3rd, 2019, 12:18 pm

Here is an online link (used on previous LV's works ) to George Cosbuc's poems:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433074388160&view=1up&seq=114
El-Zorab page 105
Lordul John page 156

:)
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