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Post by adrianstephens » June 22nd, 2020, 3:47 am

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Post by Kitty » June 22nd, 2020, 4:12 am

hi Adrian, and thank you for the fast turn-around :)

sorry, I have not checked it all yet, because I noticed a big problem right from the start and I wanted to let you know before you start on the second act. :?

Wherever the stage direction are at the beginning of a speech, you would have to include the name of the person speaking. For example "Bulger, mildly behind his hand" on page 6. Now with so many parts missing, I think it would take me ages to write them all down as PL notes and I think it would be just as fast if you simply went through the text once again and you quickly see which parts are at the beginning of a line and which are in the middle or at the end. Those you can leave without the character names, because we know who is speaking by then.

And while you are at it, please also include "The persons of the play" always saying the full description, for example "Horace Bream, a young American, read by..." etc

Question for Todd: do you want the introductory note as well ? :hmm: you didn't specify.

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Post by adrianstephens » June 22nd, 2020, 4:22 am

Kitty wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:12 am
hi Adrian, and thank you for the fast turn-around :)

sorry, I have not checked it all yet, because I noticed a big problem right from the start and I wanted to let you know before you start on the second act. :?

Wherever the stage direction are at the beginning of a speech, you would have to include the name of the person speaking. For example "Bulger, mildly behind his hand" on page 6. Now with so many parts missing, I think it would take me ages to write them all down as PL notes and I think it would be just as fast if you simply went through the text once again and you quickly see which parts are at the beginning of a line and which are in the middle or at the end. Those you can leave without the character names, because we know who is speaking by then.

And while you are at it, please also include "The persons of the play" always saying the full description, for example "Horace Bream, a young American, read by..." etc

Question for Todd: do you want the introductory note as well ? :hmm: you didn't specify.

Thanks

Sonia
Thank you, Sonia. I think I'll have to re-record it. That will be quicker. I should have remembered the rule about citing the name.
So please don't PL this.

A question, is "Bulger" a hard or soft "g"?
And is "Phenyl" pronounced 'fen-il (which seems more appropriate) or 'fee-nile (which is how we pronounced that word in chemistry class).

Best,
Adrian
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Post by Kitty » June 22nd, 2020, 4:26 am

adrianstephens wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:22 am
I think I'll have to re-record it. That will be quicker.
NO !!! With such a long act it won't be quicker.

The easiest way is to record all the names that appear ONCE, say it like you would say it at the beginning of a line "Ruth, walking to left" - record only "Ruth" in the correct intonation. Etc with all the other names, that will be half a dozen names I predict. Maybe 10.

Then simply listen to the whole recording, check with the text and whenever a direction is at the beginning, copy and paste the correct name from your list in there. That will be very fast with a bit of practice. And less prone to more errors in the text ;)
A question, is "Bulger" a hard or soft "g"?
I personally would have said it Bul-djer. But as long as you're constistent we accept any pronunciation.
And is "Phenyl" pronounced 'fen-il (which seems more appropriate) or 'fee-nile (which is how we pronounced that word in chemistry class).
So far I heard it as fenil :) but again, optional

Thanks, and sorry for giving you so much trouble :(

Sonia

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Post by ToddHW » June 22nd, 2020, 7:29 am

Kitty wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:12 am
Question for Todd: do you want the introductory note as well ? :hmm: you didn't specify.

Thanks

Sonia
I would like the Introductory Note. I find it interesting. I don't think it has spoilers like Hobby-Horse did, and so it can be at the beginning as printed.

Thanks, Todd

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Post by adrianstephens » June 23rd, 2020, 2:43 am

Kitty wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:26 am
adrianstephens wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:22 am
I think I'll have to re-record it. That will be quicker.
NO !!! With such a long act it won't be quicker.

The easiest way is to record all the names that appear ONCE, say it like you would say it at the beginning of a line "Ruth, walking to left" - record only "Ruth" in the correct intonation. Etc with all the other names, that will be half a dozen names I predict. Maybe 10.

Then simply listen to the whole recording, check with the text and whenever a direction is at the beginning, copy and paste the correct name from your list in there. That will be very fast with a bit of practice. And less prone to more errors in the text ;)
A question, is "Bulger" a hard or soft "g"?
I personally would have said it Bul-djer. But as long as you're constistent we accept any pronunciation.
And is "Phenyl" pronounced 'fen-il (which seems more appropriate) or 'fee-nile (which is how we pronounced that word in chemistry class).
So far I heard it as fenil :) but again, optional

Thanks, and sorry for giving you so much trouble :(

Sonia
Hello Sonia and Todd.

Here we are then, with the persons of the play, introductory note and missing names inserted.
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/sweetlavender_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3

Todd - I was a little unsure about the order of things like the "recorded by" and introduction. Hopefully you can make sense of what I produced.

Best Regards,
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Post by Kitty » June 24th, 2020, 4:46 am

adrianstephens wrote:
June 23rd, 2020, 2:43 am
Here we are then, with the persons of the play, introductory note and missing names inserted.
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/sweetlavender_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3
:shock: over 40 minutes ! This looks like we have to cut the act in two parts. Excellent job, Adrian. And I'm happy you decided not to re-record it all again but rather go with my copy/paste suggestion. And your level of accuracy was really exceptional, seeing how long the act was. :thumbs:

However I found a few things still to correct, a few missed lines too:

> at about 1:11: could you please paste your own voice credit here at the end of the cast list. I see you have it at 8:22, but it belongs here

> at about 16:25: (p. 20) missed line: "Ruth enters with a tray"

> at 27:18: (p. 39) "thinking" – although this is inside Clement's speech, the fact that Lavender is mentioned in the previous stage direction makes it ambiguous. To me is sounds like now Lavender is thinking and this may confuse the listener. Therefore I would suggest adding "Clement" here, to make it more clear it's still him speaking

> at about 33:47: (p. 47) missed line: "Mrs Gilfillian enters the room followed by Minnie"

> at 38:08: (p. 54) "to Dick" – for the same reason as before, I would add "Mrs Gilfillian" here, otherwise it sounds as if Minnie was speaking

> at 39:05 & 39:14: (p. 55 & 56) two mixed-up lines: "Minnie resumes playing softly" needs to come before "Ruth enters...[etc]"

thank you !

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Post by adrianstephens » June 24th, 2020, 8:29 am

Kitty wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 4:46 am

However I found a few things still to correct, a few missed lines too:

> at about 1:11: could you please paste your own voice credit here at the end of the cast list. I see you have it at 8:22, but it belongs here

> at about 16:25: (p. 20) missed line: "Ruth enters with a tray"

> at 27:18: (p. 39) "thinking" – although this is inside Clement's speech, the fact that Lavender is mentioned in the previous stage direction makes it ambiguous. To me is sounds like now Lavender is thinking and this may confuse the listener. Therefore I would suggest adding "Clement" here, to make it more clear it's still him speaking

> at about 33:47: (p. 47) missed line: "Mrs Gilfillian enters the room followed by Minnie"

> at 38:08: (p. 54) "to Dick" – for the same reason as before, I would add "Mrs Gilfillian" here, otherwise it sounds as if Minnie was speaking

> at 39:05 & 39:14: (p. 55 & 56) two mixed-up lines: "Minnie resumes playing softly" needs to come before "Ruth enters...[etc]"

thank you !

Sonia
Thank you, Sonia. I've made the corrections, ready for spot PL:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/sweetlavender_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3
My Librivox-related YouTube series starts here: Part 0: Introduction. https://youtu.be/pMHYycgA5VU
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Part 15: Case Study (Poem) https://youtu.be/41sr_VC1Qxo
Part 16: Case Study 2 (Dramatic Reading) https://youtu.be/GBIAd469vnM


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Post by Kitty » June 25th, 2020, 12:07 am

adrianstephens wrote:
June 24th, 2020, 8:29 am
I've made the corrections, ready for spot PL:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/sweetlavender_stagedirections_1_128kb.mp3
and totally PL ok now :thumbs: thanks, Adrian !

Sonia

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Post by EltonTheSnowman » June 26th, 2020, 7:11 am

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Post by adrianstephens » June 26th, 2020, 11:09 am

Here is Act 2 Stage Directions:
https://librivox.org/uploads/toddhw/sweetlavender_stagedirections_2_128kb.mp3

Todd - I'm trying to leave 3s between most phrases. Do you prefer me to leave any more or less?
I'm also manually removing some clicks between phrases. If that is unnecessary, please say so.

Thanks
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Post by ToddHW » June 26th, 2020, 11:22 am

Thank you.

3 seconds is probably fine. It is hard to make the gaps too long....

Removing isolated clicks in the middle of gaps is probably not that important - they will likely vanish anyway when I cut in character lines from their files. Clicks that are within or adjacent to your words should be removed though if you can.

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