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Post by ToddHW » June 25th, 2020, 7:59 am

Oh! Tubbs has a lot more plays than just the Alias Miss Sherlock! Maybe try out one in the next One Act Play collection....

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Post by Andrewjames » June 25th, 2020, 8:34 am

mightyfelix wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 7:39 am
That does help, if we can find it. We'd need to use that edition rather than a newer one. That is, it can't be newer than 1924.

I've poked around a bit and haven't found it yet. But I did find "Alias Miss Sherlock": http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100862376

EDIT: Well, and I found your suggestion, coyright 1910..... in Spanish: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/010937098
Full text and details of the history of the play are here:

https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=Sherlock_Holmes_(play_1899)

also this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Theatrical-Sherlock-Holmes-Arthur-Conan/dp/1291264213

has the full text published with a statement that the text of all four 'holmes' plays printed in full in the book are in the public domain.

Is it the case that whats required to make an item legal to use on Librivox, is a scan of the pages of an actual book of the relevant age/writers death date, have been put online somewhere?
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Post by mightyfelix » June 25th, 2020, 8:40 am

Andrewjames wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 8:34 am
Full text and details of the history of the play are here:

https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=Sherlock_Holmes_(play_1899)

also this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Theatrical-Sherlock-Holmes-Arthur-Conan/dp/1291264213

has the full text published with a statement that the text of all four 'holmes' plays printed in full in the book are in the public domain.

Is it the case that whats required to make an item legal to use on Librivox, is a scan of the pages of an actual book of the relevant age/writers death date, have been put online somewhere?
AJ
Not necessarily. I have some pre-1925 print books at home that probably don't exist online anywhere. If I wanted to read one as a solo for LV, I would just have to scan and upload the copyright page to prove that the book is now PD, and I could read right off the page. However, if I wanted to read the book as a group project (as a play would necessarily have to be), I'd need for the other members of the group to be able to access it. That's why, for dramatic works, we really do need to have the full text online.

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Post by Andrewjames » June 25th, 2020, 9:44 am


Not necessarily. I have some pre-1925 print books at home that probably don't exist online anywhere. If I wanted to read one as a solo for LV, I would just have to scan and upload the copyright page to prove that the book is now PD, and I could read right off the page. However, if I wanted to read the book as a group project (as a play would necessarily have to be), I'd need for the other members of the group to be able to access it. That's why, for dramatic works, we really do need to have the full text online.
so in theory if someone has a copy of a play at home they could upload some scans onto their own website and other readers could access the text from there? (says a man with masses of old books (but sadly not this one without paying £150...))

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Post by mightyfelix » June 25th, 2020, 9:54 am

Andrewjames wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 9:44 am

so in theory if someone has a copy of a *clearly public domain* play at home they could upload some scans onto their own website and other readers could access the text from there? (says a man with masses of old books (but sadly not this one without paying £150...))
Yes! (With my obvious but necessary amendment above. :wink:) I have actually done this (not to my own website, but to archive.org) a time or two so that we could use it for a group project.

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Post by Andrewjames » June 25th, 2020, 11:58 am

If we cant find ACDs first Sherlock Holmes play how about one of the other ones like the Speckled Band? It does seem to have everything needed online. and has quite a large cast to give plenty of folks a chance to play a role.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044086822962&view=1up&seq=5

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Post by ToddHW » June 25th, 2020, 1:11 pm

Woohoo! Great find. I did not know about these. Great find.

Is Hathi available worldwide? Or is it like Google Books where access is limited?

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Post by mightyfelix » June 25th, 2020, 1:18 pm

ToddHW wrote:
June 25th, 2020, 1:11 pm
Woohoo! Great find. I did not know about these. Great find.

Is Hathi available worldwide? Or is it like Google Books where access is limited?

Thanks, Todd
Sometimes Hathi limits non-US access, even if the book is PD in those countries. They're not always discriminating when it comes to things like that. This one is full view for me. Maybe an international reader can tell us if they're able to view it.

Here is the catalogue entry: https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100373246

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Post by Andrewjames » June 25th, 2020, 1:38 pm


Sometimes Hathi limits non-US access, even if the book is PD in those countries. They're not always discriminating when it comes to things like that. This one is full view for me. Maybe an international reader can tell us if they're able to view it.
Im in the UK and can see it full view.
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Post by ToddHW » June 30th, 2020, 10:51 am

By the way, I (and maybe others) could be offering more plays if folks volunteered to help with the DPL role. I can edit up a storm (when my hands are healthy) but my tinnitus (ringing in the ears) means I'm really not the right person to PL stuff much of the time.

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Post by Andrewjames » June 30th, 2020, 11:34 am

hi Todd,
im still working my way around these initials...what does DPL stand for please? Something Proof Listener.... :?

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Post by ToddHW » June 30th, 2020, 11:42 am

hi Todd,
im still working my way around these initials...what does DPL stand for please? Something Proof Listener.... :?
"Dedicated Proof Listener" - someone who listens to everything for one project. Compare that with having different people do the PL for different sections.

Then there are also BC - Book Coordinator, who runs a project, and MC - Meta Coordinator, who sets up the MW and at the end catalogs the project at Archive.org so it can be downloaded by anyone to listen to.

MW - Magic Window, our view into the database of projects and sections and the files they are linked to.

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Post by Andrewjames » June 30th, 2020, 1:26 pm

thanks Todd,

so the next question is how and where do people volunteer to be the Dedicated Proof Listener for stuff? im very new here but its interesting to note how many one minute tests there are submitted every day and ive just looked and theres 10 'new here' posts on the introduce yourself thread, so lots of people are clearly interested in what the site is doing and want to be involved its just a case of channelling that involvement towards bottle necks in the system. :hmm:

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Post by mightyfelix » June 30th, 2020, 2:47 pm

There are a number of ways you can know that a project needs proof listeners.
  1. You mentioned seeing all the one minute tests over in Listeners Wanted. At the top of that forum, there are a number of posts that say LISTENERS WANTED or something to that effect. Each of those should have a link to a specific project that needs a proof listener.
  2. Any time you see a tilde (~) in the subject line of a project thread, that project is still looking for a DPL.
  3. If there is a specific project you're interested in, go and look at the MW (magic window, in the first post of each project). If there is a DPL, there will be a message above the table of sections that reads "This project has a decided proof listener who has committed to listening to all sections:" followed by that person's name. If this message is missing, there is no DPL.
  4. You can check the Project Status Table: http://wiki.librivox.org/index.php/Project_Status_Table There are actually two tables here: one for projects without a DPL and one listing how many open and completed sections there are for group projects. (This table is updated about once a week, which reminds me that I haven't yet done it this week. :wink:)
All of these indicators are entered manually, so there may be instances when a DPL has signed up but has not yet been entered. To volunteer, just post in the project thread that you're interested in proof listening!

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Post by Andrewjames » June 30th, 2020, 3:28 pm

thats interesting stuff!

one thing that strikes me is i'd obviously been to the thread with one minutes test on when i did mine but as its mostly all tests thats what i assumed it all was, i missed the posts for DPLs wanted. maybe that thread would be less cluttered if the tests were moved to the "say hello" thread so all newbie things were in one place and newbie questions could also all be posted there as well. then the 'listeners' thread could just be just for DPL/ Editor things along with maybe a MW with the list of all those recordings needing DPLs (i was shocked to see how many there are!)

sorry if this is taking the thread wildly off topic, but if we are short of DPLs people need to know...

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