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tovarisch
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Post by tovarisch » August 16th, 2017, 9:07 pm

A note today of another LV member's passing made me look up world death rate. Did you know, that it is about 8 deaths per 1000 population?

Given that we have more than 60,000 members, and assuming there are very few duplicates, then about 500 (five hundred!) of those who have signed up in the last 12 years are no longer living.

It's startling (or what is the right word?)
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Post by annise » August 16th, 2017, 9:22 pm

I often wonder what has happened to regulars who suddenly disappear mid project, I'm sure there are deaths we don't hear about. So it's not we don't appreciate their efforts, we just don't know about them.

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Post by Peter Why » August 16th, 2017, 10:25 pm

I wanted to make sure that was 8 deaths per thousand per year, and looked the phrase up on wikipedia. It's alarming that the corresponding birth rate is 18.5 per 1,000 per year.

Part of being a friend with someone is sharing some of your interests or ways of thought. The people that get involved in LibriVox become a network of friends through the work we do for each other and through sharing our experiences, senses of humour and so on, mostly without actual contact. It's sad to watch our friends fall back into the earth we come from.

I think quite a few of us have given our executors instructions to pass this news onto the LV community when it happens.

Peter
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Post by mightyfelix » August 16th, 2017, 11:57 pm

Peter Why wrote:I think quite a few of us have given our executors instructions to pass this news onto the LV community when it happens.
I don't want to be flippant, but I had to re-read this sentence..... My brain interpreted that word as "executioners" the first time through.
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Post by Peter Why » August 17th, 2017, 12:51 am

In my case, he may well be my executioner, as he has Power of Attourney over my health status!

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Post by Elizabby » August 17th, 2017, 1:16 am

Peter Why wrote: I think quite a few of us have given our executors instructions to pass this news onto the LV community when it happens.
That's a good idea - I don't think my husband would be in any fit state to login here and tell people that I've died, even though he does have an account here. The executor is a better choice.
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Post by mightyfelix » October 29th, 2018, 10:32 pm

I've been to quite a few funerals in the past year or two, and it's got me, of course, thinking about my own life and death. I'm only in my thirties, no kids, and haven't yet gotten around to making a will or any of that stuff. (Soon.)

But one thing I have decided on, because LV has become such a large part of what I am and do, is to make an audio clip to be played at my funeral. I'll be combing through some of what I've already read for LV and finding passages that speak of death, heaven, etc, and cutting them together as a kind of message from me to those who'll be attending.

I've been thinking about my stepdad a lot tonight, who died about 4 1/2 years ago. So I'm going to start this little project of mine tonight, I think.
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Post by Win2017 » October 31st, 2018, 12:09 am

Ahh, Dev... Make some babies. :lol: Your voice needs to be passed on :lol: I’m only 16 and I am an Aunt to 10 kidderojos (and my sister is due any day! :D :D ). If you don’t then is there that much point making a will, as that is kinda who it’s for. My brother was married at 16 and has 6 kids and probably more on the way. Our culture is too afraid of kids. :?

I think our lives always have to be lived thinking about the end of it...and obviously the consequences. What are we producing and who is it for? I find personally I have to fight this agenda that is so strong in this day and age, of living life for yourself. I think we have a mandate to reflect Gods standard, and that is complete service and love to others. And really when we look at our lives truthfully we are forced to admit that it is rare we are selfless, if ever. So true joy or happiness has to come through giving up our time and lives to be transparent so others can challenge what we are doing. I find fear causes us to make everything acceptable instead of evaluating whether it’s even right or wrong.

I’m not sure why I went off on that tangent, but I guess if we’re talking about it, that is how I think of it. We’re here for a reason, we already know it doesn’t work and we fail and sin horribly. I think God gives us a way out by actually talking about it, and admitting the wrong and that is actually how we revenge it all. However, we get so fearful of stepping out of the box and looking stupid. Which is probably how I seem now. But is everyone else really better off for staying in it?
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Post by mightyfelix » October 31st, 2018, 10:54 pm

Win2017 wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 12:09 am
Your voice needs to be passed on :lol: I’m only 16 and I am an Aunt to 10 kidderojos (and my sister is due any day! :D :D ). If you don’t then is there that much point making a will, as that is kinda who it’s for.
Thanks for the compliment. I truly appreciate it. However, if we do have children one day (which we hope to do), it will most probably be through adoption.

I still think the time has come to start getting my end of life paperwork in order, kids or no kids. I'm only in my thirties, but that doesn't mean I'm guaranteed another 40 or 50 years of life. And I want to make things as easy for my husband as they can reasonably be, in the event of my death. He shouldn't have to deal with legal stuff as well as grieving his wife.
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Post by Win2017 » November 3rd, 2018, 6:15 pm

To maintain the integrity of healthy discussion it should be honest. I thoughtfully wrote to Devorah on an open forum with the purpose of exploration, help, and encouragement.

A couple people wrote to berate me on her behalf. (One publicly, which was then removed, and another privately). It was dishonest to privately chide me on the grounds of representing Devorah. We all need the opportunity and accountability to speak for ourselves. Growth comes from challenge and discomfort; answers often come from the most unlikely and scorned upon places.

I value you all, especially those who disagree with me, because that is what clarifies things the most. Let’s have patience to keep things transparent and free.

Her gracious response was great mothering that will live on through me. And, I will still appreciate the fact that all your parents had kids. :D
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Post by Algy Pug » November 8th, 2018, 3:17 pm

mightyfelix wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 10:54 pm

I still think the time has come to start getting my end of life paperwork in order, kids or no kids. I'm only in my thirties, but that doesn't mean I'm guaranteed another 40 or 50 years of life. And I want to make things as easy for my husband as they can reasonably be, in the event of my death. He shouldn't have to deal with legal stuff as well as grieving his wife.
Interesting - I attended a superannuation seminar a few years ago. The presenter looked over the audience of sixty or so people and observed: "Do you realize that 25 percent of you will probably live to a hundred?"

The chances are that you will be with us for many decades to come. Live long and prosper!

And record lots.

Cheers
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Post by mightyfelix » November 8th, 2018, 4:20 pm

Algy Pug wrote:
November 8th, 2018, 3:17 pm

The chances are that you will be with us for many decades to come. Live long and prosper!

And record lots.

Cheers
Thanks very much! That's exactly what I have every intention of doing. But with the understanding that I have no guarantee. :)
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The Crook in the Lot Faith in the midst of trials
20th C. Negro Lit. Essays on African American issues
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