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Post by Steve » June 2nd, 2020, 8:09 am

An article on The Register concerning Internet Archive:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/01/publishers_sue_internet_archive/

I haven't seen this reported anywhere else as yet.

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Post by ej400 » June 2nd, 2020, 10:37 am

Steve wrote:
June 2nd, 2020, 8:09 am
An article on The Register concerning Internet Archive:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/01/publishers_sue_internet_archive/

I haven't seen this reported anywhere else as yet.

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I don't know, I just assume all rumors are false.... but I'm not arguing it can't not be true. I just don't see how Internet Archive could be copyright claimed..... :|

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Post by knotyouraveragejo » June 2nd, 2020, 10:47 am

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Post by notartom » June 5th, 2020, 8:23 pm

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/publishers-sue-internet-archive-over-massive-digital-lending-program/

Well crap. It's too early to panic, but maybe start contingency planning on what we do if we lose our server host...

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Post by loon » June 6th, 2020, 9:48 am

Pasting "archive.org", "Penguin Random House", "Hachette", "HarperCollins" and "Wiley" in the 'news' tab of your favorite search engine should turn up any recent developments. One source I read figures the publishers will just try to force a shutdown of the 'emergency library' and not try for the $billions in statutory damages (99.99% of which they couldn't get anyway. Does archive.org even own the servers, or just lease them somewhere?)
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Post by KevinS » June 6th, 2020, 10:16 am

Don't worry. (Seriously.)

Anyway, if worse comes to worse, I have a mimeograph machine.
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Post by loon » June 6th, 2020, 10:31 am

You're going to need a lot of pages to publish all the ones and zeros in an MP3.

(Agreed - I'm not too worried.)
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Post by k5hsj » June 6th, 2020, 7:21 pm

loon wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 9:48 am
Does archive.org even own the servers, or just lease them somewhere?
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Post by annise » June 6th, 2020, 8:15 pm

I think Archive always intended to close the emergency library when all the schools and colleges were back, and if I understand their "lending library" correctly, all it means is that the books they lent for up to 2 weeks to one person at a time, could be borrowed by many people at the same time.
And they do have servers in other places so when/if SF disappears into the sea they will still be able to operate.

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Post by mightyfelix » June 16th, 2020, 6:44 pm

New(ish) blog post about IA's response to the suit: http://blog.archive.org/2020/06/10/temporary-national-emergency-library-to-close-2-weeks-early-returning-to-traditional-controlled-digital-lending/

The upshot is, they think that the publishers who sued them are wrong, but they're not really fighting it. Instead, they're going back to short term digital lending earlier than planned.

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Post by Basquetteur » June 18th, 2020, 8:33 am

Hi,
When I borrowed a book before from IAa they were borrowed for 15 days. Now it is for one hour.
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Post by TriciaG » June 18th, 2020, 8:49 am

Basquetteur wrote:
June 18th, 2020, 8:33 am
Hi,
When I borrowed a book before from IAa they were borrowed for 15 days. Now it is for one hour.
Regards,
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I'm thinking those are the books in the Emergency Library, and that books of which IA owns a physical copy will still be 15 days.

I could be wrong, though. :)
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Post by Monaxi » August 6th, 2020, 5:55 pm

I subscribe to the Internet Archives newsletter and the news looks pretty bad:

https://blog.archive.org/2020/07/29/internet-archive-responds-to-publishers-lawsuit/

Any ideas about how this impacts LV?
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Post by annise » August 6th, 2020, 7:19 pm

It shouldn't affect LV at all, as our books are all out of copyright in the USA so anyone can do anything with them.
That is why we insist on books we read always being very clearly PD - we do not want to give those who would willingly try to close us down and make people pay for audiobooks, any ammunition. We aren't just being difficult - just protecting our catalogue.
As a personal comment - the world is struggling against Covid. People are suffering financially in almost all parts of the economy (except mask makers and delivery companies :D ) so I can't really see why authors and publishers should not do their bit too.

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Post by TriciaG » August 7th, 2020, 5:19 am

Monaxi wrote:
August 6th, 2020, 5:55 pm
I subscribe to the Internet Archives newsletter and the news looks pretty bad:

https://blog.archive.org/2020/07/29/internet-archive-responds-to-publishers-lawsuit/

Any ideas about how this impacts LV?
That sounds like the first response in the lawsuit. They've got a LONG way to go. I will keep calm and carry on.
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