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Post by Steve » June 2nd, 2020, 8:09 am

An article on The Register concerning Internet Archive:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/01/publishers_sue_internet_archive/

I haven't seen this reported anywhere else as yet.

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Post by ej400 » June 2nd, 2020, 10:37 am

Steve wrote:
June 2nd, 2020, 8:09 am
An article on The Register concerning Internet Archive:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/01/publishers_sue_internet_archive/

I haven't seen this reported anywhere else as yet.

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I don't know, I just assume all rumors are false.... but I'm not arguing it can't not be true. I just don't see how Internet Archive could be copyright claimed..... :|

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Post by knotyouraveragejo » June 2nd, 2020, 10:47 am

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Post by notartom » June 5th, 2020, 8:23 pm

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/publishers-sue-internet-archive-over-massive-digital-lending-program/

Well crap. It's too early to panic, but maybe start contingency planning on what we do if we lose our server host...

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Post by loon » June 6th, 2020, 9:48 am

Pasting "archive.org", "Penguin Random House", "Hachette", "HarperCollins" and "Wiley" in the 'news' tab of your favorite search engine should turn up any recent developments. One source I read figures the publishers will just try to force a shutdown of the 'emergency library' and not try for the $billions in statutory damages (99.99% of which they couldn't get anyway. Does archive.org even own the servers, or just lease them somewhere?)
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Post by KevinS » June 6th, 2020, 10:16 am

Don't worry. (Seriously.)

Anyway, if worse comes to worse, I have a mimeograph machine.

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Post by loon » June 6th, 2020, 10:31 am

You're going to need a lot of pages to publish all the ones and zeros in an MP3.

(Agreed - I'm not too worried.)
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Post by k5hsj » June 6th, 2020, 7:21 pm

loon wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 9:48 am
Does archive.org even own the servers, or just lease them somewhere?
Archive.org occupies an old church in San Francisco, not too far from the Golden Gate Bridge. The building is stuffed with servers! https://blog.archive.org/2020/05/22/internet-archive-virtual-zoom-backgrounds/
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Post by annise » June 6th, 2020, 8:15 pm

I think Archive always intended to close the emergency library when all the schools and colleges were back, and if I understand their "lending library" correctly, all it means is that the books they lent for up to 2 weeks to one person at a time, could be borrowed by many people at the same time.
And they do have servers in other places so when/if SF disappears into the sea they will still be able to operate.

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Post by mightyfelix » June 16th, 2020, 6:44 pm

New(ish) blog post about IA's response to the suit: http://blog.archive.org/2020/06/10/temporary-national-emergency-library-to-close-2-weeks-early-returning-to-traditional-controlled-digital-lending/

The upshot is, they think that the publishers who sued them are wrong, but they're not really fighting it. Instead, they're going back to short term digital lending earlier than planned.

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Post by Basquetteur » June 18th, 2020, 8:33 am

Hi,
When I borrowed a book before from IAa they were borrowed for 15 days. Now it is for one hour.
Regards,
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Post by TriciaG » June 18th, 2020, 8:49 am

Basquetteur wrote:
June 18th, 2020, 8:33 am
Hi,
When I borrowed a book before from IAa they were borrowed for 15 days. Now it is for one hour.
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I'm thinking those are the books in the Emergency Library, and that books of which IA owns a physical copy will still be 15 days.

I could be wrong, though. :)
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