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Does your player cut off the ends of recordings?
Poll ended at November 27th, 2016, 2:31 pm
Yes 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
No 97%  97%  [ 34 ]
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Post Posted:: November 18th, 2016, 10:42 am 

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I am in favour of unifying the end silence length, whether it be 2-3 seconds or 5 (10 just seems excessive). I never experienced any cutting off regardless of what type of media player I used. Also it's one of the most common problems with new readers' recordings- even if they get everything else right.

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Post Posted:: November 18th, 2016, 5:49 pm 
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Kangaroo692 wrote:
kayray wrote:
You have a good memory, Peter! :shock: Looks like RealPlayer is still a thing: www dot real dot com, if any windows users want to try it. Looks like they're more focused on video than audio, nowadays.


I've just installed it, and I'm going to make some experiments...

EDIT TO ADD - Trying with a 45 minute file shows no cut off. :)

Thank you, Kanga!

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Post Posted:: November 19th, 2016, 1:01 am 

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I think five seconds are fine, just to indicate the break between chapters. 10 seconds always felt
awfully long, though. I'd vote for 5sec for all sections.

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Post Posted:: November 20th, 2016, 1:23 am 

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5 seconds works for me - my player runs the chapters from one to the next, so I like a bit of a gap but 10 seconds is a lot.

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Post Posted:: November 20th, 2016, 1:59 am 

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Five seconds is okay, but ten seconds seems like far too much dead air to me.

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Post Posted:: November 20th, 2016, 7:10 pm 

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I like the end silence! I used an MP3 once in the last year or so that cut off part of the end as well. I don't remember what kind it was though. :)

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Post Posted:: November 25th, 2016, 1:49 pm 
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AdeledePignerolles wrote:
I like the end silence! I used an MP3 once in the last year or so that cut off part of the end as well. I don't remember what kind it was though. :)

Did you notice if it cut off more than five seconds in longer recordings?

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Post Posted:: November 25th, 2016, 7:04 pm 

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No, it didn't. I don't remember if it cut off all 5 seconds, but it did cut off some time (because one file that wasn't from LV and didn't have the silence had the end cut off.)

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Post Posted:: December 8th, 2016, 10:44 am 

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I think 1 to 3 seconds is fine. We used to have a minimum of 0.5 seconds at the start of a CD track as some early CD players needed that time to kick in. Nowadays even that is not needed. End silence could be as low as 0.5 seconds as well, but 1-3 seconds a good compromise.

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Post Posted:: December 15th, 2016, 7:57 am 

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Have the admins discussed this? Is the end silence going to be just 5s regardless of the length?

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Post Posted:: December 15th, 2016, 2:04 pm 
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carteki wrote:
Have the admins discussed this? Is the end silence going to be just 5s regardless of the length?

Kim

Sadly, the annual all costs paid LV admins meeting/frolic in Vienna has been postponed this year due to a tiny disagreement on how many masseur/masseusses to have on 24 hour a day duty. This means we we have been forced to discuss this issue on line and without the benefit of pre-dinner cocktails. I understand that the majority of those who have expressed an opinion favor a flat 5 seconds regardless of length but no definitive change has been announced yet since some have not weighed in yet. Meanwhile please understand if some of us are a bit crotchety and out of sorts; we miss our conference, especially the whirlpools.

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Post Posted:: December 15th, 2016, 9:26 pm 

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My opinion is that Phil Chenevert is a very funny guy!

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Post Posted:: December 16th, 2016, 3:24 am 

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philchenevert wrote:
... we have been forced to discuss this issue on line and without the benefit of pre-dinner cocktails.


Oh the humanity! :shock:

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Post Posted:: January 5th, 2017, 11:34 am 
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After recovering from the disappointment at not having our Vienna conference, as well as recovering from the holidays, I think we can officially announce that recordings do not need 10 seconds of silence if the file is 30 minutes or longer. They can have about 5 seconds, as the shorter ones do.

The project template will not be changed just yet, so it's up to the BCs/Soloists to do what they want in their projects and make the change to the first post as desired.

We highly recommend leaving already-submitted sections the way they are. If BCs want to immediately allow readers in current projects to use shorter silences on new submissions, they're welcome to do so, or they can leave current projects the way they are and start the 5-second thing on future projects only.

So obviously we're being flexible with this. :)

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Post Posted:: January 5th, 2017, 1:11 pm 
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I agree. I plan to start new projects with the 5 second rule for all sections.

And the conference was cancelled?! Well that explains why I drank chocolate at Café Schwarzenberg for 2 days and no other admin showed up. I voted anyway to increase our paid vacation to 7 weeks a year and give everyone a car upgrade every 2 years. What about the LivriVox Admin Cruise to the Bahamas, don't tell me that's been nixed too !?

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