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Post by hugh »

Dear all, we've just launched a smallish fund-raising campaign ....please spread the word (and feel free to ask questions below!). Find out more here:
http://librivox.org/2010/02/24/librivox-needs-your-help/
Dearest LibriVox listeners, volunteers, & supporters:

For four-and-a-half years, LibriVox volunteers have been making audiobooks for the world to enjoy, and giving them away for free. We’ve made thousands of free audiobooks that have been downloaded by millions of people; our site gets 400,000 visitors every month. To date, all our costs have been borne by a few individuals, with some generous donations from partners. However, these costs have become too big.

LibriVox needs your help.

We’re asking for donations for the following:

* to cover hosting costs for our website, including: the site you are reading now; the forum; the wiki; the catalog; but NOT including the audio files which are hosted by Archive.org
* to redesign the site and improve its accessibility
* to make the LibriVox catalog easier for listeners to use
* to make the management software easier for admins to use

Your donation will support the work of our volunteers.

Our fundraising goal is $20,000. After we reach it, we’ll shut down our fundraising campaign. And we hope we can make it another 4.5 years without having to bother you again!
To donate, please visit this link:
http://librivox.org/2010/02/24/librivox-needs-your-help/
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Post by daxm »

Not that I get a lot of traffic but I'd be happy to post a link to your "Donate Now" URL on my web site. Do you have code for that by chance? (I can create a basic anchor tag to you but if you have something more fancy (i.e. graphics, et al) I'd prefer that.)
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Post by hugh »

daxm - great idea:

can someone make up a nice graphic with: "Donate to LibriVox" ... and then we can post the code snippet here?
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Post by Lucy_k_p »

I'm happy to donate. As I've said elsewhere I consider what LV does to be immeasurably valuable. I'll gladly pay to keep it running.

I hope you get the money you need, and I've posted on my LJ encouraging others to donate as well. I don't have a huge Friendslist, but every little helps.
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Post by Hokuspokus »

hugh wrote:daxm - great idea:

can someone make up a nice graphic with: "Donate to LibriVox" ... and then we can post the code snippet here?
I made a graphic and put it here.
http://drop.io/librivox

Let me know if you want it smaller/different.
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Post by kayray »

Thank you Hokus! I've used your button:
http://kayray.org/2010/02/25/librivox-needs-your-help/
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Elli

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Post by icyjumbo »

It's beginning to feel like AOL around here :)

Me too:

http://www.icyjumbo.com/blog/2010/librivox-needs-your-help/
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Post by RuthieG »

Is the HUGE button for MAMMOTH donations, Chris? :lol:
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Post by knotyouraveragejo »

Can someone put one of these buttons on our home page or maybe on the catalog pages? :)
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Post by padraigo »

Hi Hugh,

I just thought I'd throw in a few ideas which might help to make Librivox cheaper to run.

My understanding is that the file hosting for works in progress is expensive. From what I've seen of the process not much processing is done on the files until the book gets to the cataloguing stage, what's needed is a secure place to store a large volume od MP3 files in the year to two years many books take to complete.

I was wondering if it might be workable to use a file upload service for this, and work on devising a simple way to transfer the completed files to the Librivox servers when it is time for cataloguing.

There are some free services which seem to be easy to use and which don't impose storage limits. Some examples include http://www.mediafire.com/tour.php and http://www.filehosting.org/ but there are others.

Most of these services are Web GUI based services, I'm not sure if any of them have useful APIs (which would make it easier to e.g. integrate them into the catalog system). So on, non free, but reasonably priced option, might be to use Amazon S3 storage (http://aws.amazon.com/s3/) which for 100Gb would cost $15 a month. There are data transfer costs also which would at least double the yearly cost. The advantage is that it is really easy to access this remote storage from applications, there are APIs for lots of languages.

You'd still need local storage for the database, but hopefully the cost would be a lot lower as it wouldn't need as much storage as the bulky /mp3 files do.

Another option also from Amazon would be their Elastic Compute Cloud, or EC2 for short (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/) which basically gives you a VM and you can run as many as you need to handle your traffic but only pay for as many as you run. The small system sounds like it would cover the needs described ("Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance storage, 32-bit platform") and would cost around $750 a year. As it's a VM the Librivox sysadmin would have root access to that VM.

Yet another option might be to use a hosted social network, like Ning where you can highly customise it. This would provide forums but also a lot of social functionality which might be very useful for a vibrant community like Librivox. Here's a sample based on just a few minutes work (http://book-readers.ning.com/), obviously with more time and effort it could be more heavily customised to the look you'd like and to add the features you like (Ning comes with hundreds of Ning apps which can be added with a click - Google Docs integration, Box.Net, TokBox video chat :-), WordPress etc. You don't have to have a ning.com domain.

One final option would be to move to something like Google AppEngine. This would be a lot of work as basically you'd have to rewrite all the back end code from scratch, but you'd have full control over the functionality. On costs it says "Every Google App Engine application will have enough CPU, bandwidth, and storage to serve around 5 million monthly pageviews for free. You can purchase additional resources at competitive prices when you need them and you'll pay only for what you use.". See https://appengine.google.com.

All the best,

Padraig
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Post by hugh »

HI padraigo,

Thanks for the note.

It seems to me that LibriVox works pretty well as it is. The forum does its job, our various tools and hosting and whatnot perform their function pretty well, our super Sysadmin Dan volunteers his time to keep everything running, and the proof is that we keep making free audiobooks, which is why we are here.

The solutions you suggest might be feasible, perhaps they would be an improvement, but it would require such an atsronomical amount of labour to make it happen, and who knows what would get broken in the process, what kind of disruption it would cause.

Would it be a better set up? Who knows. I suspect, given the care we've taken in building LibriVox to its current state that it would not be better. But maybe it would, I can't say for sure. Is it worth the risk? I mean to what purpose would we risk all that disruption? To save $1000 a year? $2000? $5000?

We have a wide community out there who will support us to the tune of $20k, which in the grand scheme of charitable fundriasing campaigns is a tiny drop in the bucket.

We're already close to half-way to our target, after two days. It's cost us nothing to have this campaign, it has caused not one iota of disruption to our day to day business of making books. When we get to $20k, this week, next, or the week after, the "problem" will be solved, and we can forget about money again for the next few years...
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Post by DigiSage »

padraigo wrote:Hi Hugh,
Another option also from Amazon would be their Elastic Compute Cloud, or EC2 for short (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/) which basically gives you a VM and you can run as many as you need to handle your traffic but only pay for as many as you run. The small system sounds like it would cover the needs described ("Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance storage, 32-bit platform") and would cost around $750 a year. As it's a VM the Librivox sysadmin would have root access to that VM.
We easily max out a quad-core server and all the disk I/O our RAID 5 setup can provide. The only EC2 instance that comes anywhere near close enough to providing these resources is their Extra Large, which costs $5,956.80 per year per VM. You've also failed to consider bandwidth utilization, which the $5,956.80 per year figure does not include.

Frankly, I'm shocked that you think you have the ability to gauge our resource utilization and declare that EC2's "Small" instance would suffice.

I do, however, appreciate the effort you put towards trying to optimize our systems. Please understand that us asking for donations was no easy decision and that we've done basically everything possible to maximize what our current resources can serve (which isn't just funding, it's also available labor for migrating systems to alternate architectures).
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Post by Aldark »

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the image on the front of this shirt?


http://www.zazzle.com/librivox_2_revised_tshirt-235551038124716729

I have an idea for a donate button.
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