Editing Out Breaths and other noises

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Post by CalmDragon » January 19th, 2010, 2:47 pm

Interesting article on generic editing tips:
http://www.voiceoverxtra.com/article.htm?id=grlgsdld
Then again, many articles at http://www.voiceoverxtra.com/ seems interesting to me.

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Post by Lucy_k_p » January 19th, 2010, 3:00 pm

Hmm, Audacity doesn't do that if you select and record, it just records in a new track.

I do the: pick a pause in the recording that has no weird noises over it, then paste that over loud breaths, mouse clicks etc method. I've found it serves me well.
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Post by TriciaG » January 19th, 2010, 3:02 pm

Me, too, although I leave a lot of my breath noises in. I only remove (errr, paste over) the more obnoxious ones.
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Post by annise » January 19th, 2010, 3:25 pm

I tend to squash(de-amplify) any that sound as though I just ran a marathon - still leaves me breathing but somewhat less obtrusively :D

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Post by Starlite » January 19th, 2010, 5:33 pm

annise wrote:I tend to squash(de-amplify) any that sound as though I just ran a marathon - still leaves me breathing but somewhat less obtrusively :D

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Post by Great Plains » January 19th, 2010, 7:13 pm

I delete breaths that have silence in front of them, and I just negative amplify breaths in the middle of sentences.
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Post by LibriFoxy » January 19th, 2010, 7:54 pm

I leave most "normal" breaths, and "Control + L" all the others.
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Post by Caliban » January 23rd, 2010, 3:47 pm

I joined the Audacity forum and posted this:

To begin with, thank you for Audacity! It is currently a very popular software used at Librivox, a volunteer organization dedicated to the voice transcription of books which have either fallen out of copyright or otherwise have been placed in the public domain.

www.librivox.org

Since the "reading" of books requires semi-long takes done in a non-studio environment with an open mic it's very commonly necessary to edit out things like extraneous noises and sometimes our own loud breaths which adds a post-production "cleaning" burden which, while easily accomplished by the tools Audacity provides, could be streamlined far more easily by adding a Macro function or adding two more tools to Audacity's already generous toolbox.

1) as an adjunct to the "Silence Highlighted" function could we have a more powerful version that would overwrite the selected area with a sample of normal ambient?

2) A LOT of the editing process involves trimming out bad sections of track - we usually clap hands or make some other noise to mark the spot then just move on. It would be great to have another key function that would delete a selection then "Pull Up" the rest of the track.

THis is just a wish list by a non-programmer!

THank you for your consideration!

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Post by Starlite » January 24th, 2010, 4:43 am

LibriFoxy wrote:I leave most "normal" breaths, and "Control + L" all the others.
Just a caution here..... Dead silence can sound strange on the recording as most rooms are not dead silent. What would be better is to copy some 'room noise' from the beginning of the file and paste it in. It will flow and sound much better. (this is a mistake I made very early on and the solution is so simple).

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Post by LibriFoxy » January 24th, 2010, 2:24 pm

Starlite wrote:
LibriFoxy wrote:I leave most "normal" breaths, and "Control + L" all the others.
Just a caution here..... Dead silence can sound strange on the recording as most rooms are not dead silent. What would be better is to copy some 'room noise' from the beginning of the file and paste it in. It will flow and sound much better. (this is a mistake I made very early on and the solution is so simple).

Esther :)
ooh, good idea! It does make a difference, even if it's not visible in Audacity. I usually only Control + L if there's a long bit of "fumbling about" and I then later cut it down. But if I have to cut and paste, I'll take some of the room noise.
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Post by howardellison » April 30th, 2010, 1:48 pm

I'm new to narration and I like to use fast compression to fatten up my voice (radio experience - sorry!) - but that raises the breath noise. Like other people in these posts, I paste in room tone, or de-amplify, but that's going to take forever on a whole book!
I do have a push button that can reduce the noise as I go: effective but distracting, and easy to forget! Is there software that really does the job? If not, is there a physicist out there who can suggest a sensor to detect and delete inhalation in real time? :roll:

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Post by peegee » April 30th, 2010, 4:15 pm

howardellison wrote:I'm new to narration and I like to use fast compression to fatten up my voice (radio experience - sorry!) - but that raises the breath noise. Like other people in these posts, I paste in room tone, or de-amplify, but that's going to take forever on a whole book!
I do have a push button that can reduce the noise as I go: effective but distracting, and easy to forget! Is there software that really does the job? If not, is there a physicist out there who can suggest a sensor to detect and delete inhalation in real time? :roll:
Take a look at this thread, http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25013 specifically the 10th one down, with the subject "Phil and Nadine: The gate". I had the same problem with the compressor bringing up the breathing noise too much, and this was the answer "The Gate".

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Post by RuthieG » April 30th, 2010, 4:22 pm

More detailed instructions about the Gate on the Wiki: http://wiki.librivox.org/index.php/Basic_Principles_of_Audio_Processing#The_Gate

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Post by beeber » April 30th, 2010, 8:33 pm

People might like to look at the Waves "DeBreath" plug-in (which works with Audacity and other PC or Mac editors that accept plug-ins). It automatically recognizes breath sounds — you can adjust its sensitivity — and then allows you to reduce them partially or completely.
http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=315

It is not free (so maybe you need to convince someone to make it your birthday present), but it does work, and it's easy. Note that it requires the "iLok" system for registering software (even to run the free demo), and that's another expense, unless you already have an iLok. But it works.

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Post by howardellison » May 1st, 2010, 12:27 pm

Thankyou Phil, Ruth and Bruce. I shall pursue each tip in turn - and will try to make less din in the first place! Howard

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