Book missing title page
The next book I would like to record is The Sign at Six by Stewart Edward White. Gutenberg says it is PD, but the file does not contain the title page or say anything about when their version was published. His Wiki page says the book was published in 1912. The new projects template wants me to fill in the publication date. Should I use 1912? Leave it blank? Do something else?
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I'd say leave it blank.
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Hi Tom,
This book, The Sign at Six, was produced by Distributed Proofreaders back in 2005. DP does have the page images which I can access. The title page and copyright page images are included. The copyright page reads as follows:
Copyright 1912
The Bobbs-Merrill Company
There are a number of scansets at The Internet Archive, none of which have a title page matching the image used for the project (it appears the Project Manager scanned a personal copy), but all the TIA versions show 1912 as the copyright date. (Also none of the title page images show a "publication" date, so you should use the copyright date (IMHO)).
I can get you the images if you need them.
Hope this helps,
Don (a DP project manager)
This book, The Sign at Six, was produced by Distributed Proofreaders back in 2005. DP does have the page images which I can access. The title page and copyright page images are included. The copyright page reads as follows:
Copyright 1912
The Bobbs-Merrill Company
There are a number of scansets at The Internet Archive, none of which have a title page matching the image used for the project (it appears the Project Manager scanned a personal copy), but all the TIA versions show 1912 as the copyright date. (Also none of the title page images show a "publication" date, so you should use the copyright date (IMHO)).
I can get you the images if you need them.
Hope this helps,
Don (a DP project manager)
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Well, that works. It helps to have someone on the inside!
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Just to explain - we trust PG to have exhibited due diligence - so if they say the book is PD you can use it , it doesn't need to show a scanned title page
Don will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the ones added earlier do not display things like covers and front pages.
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Don will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the ones added earlier do not display things like covers and front pages.
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You can just use the PG source and put 1912 in as the copyright date.
Jo
The eight scans at TIA all have a 1912 copyright date, so I'm confident that is the version PG used.
A comment about the book at Biblio says
A comment about the book at Biblio says
Not to beat a dead horse, but does that mean the original publicaton date should be listed as 1910? I'm not clear on what those dates are used for in the new project template.Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1912. [Reprint Edition] Olive cloth. Originally appeared in 3 parts in Oct. 1910, as "The City of Dread" in The Popular Magazine.
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I’d say the “publication date” refers to the copy you’re reading from, Tom. If you were reading from scans of the magazine serialization you’d use “1910.”Penumbra wrote: ↑September 20th, 2019, 9:15 am The eight scans at TIA all have a 1912 copyright date, so I'm confident that is the version PG used.
A comment about the book at Biblio saysNot to beat a dead horse, but does that mean the original publicaton date should be listed as 1910? I'm not clear on what those dates are used for in the new project template.Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1912. [Reprint Edition] Olive cloth. Originally appeared in 3 parts in Oct. 1910, as "The City of Dread" in The Popular Magazine.
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I agree. There are two dates called for in the template generator. One is
Clear enough. The other isCopyright year of the edition to be used for the recording
It was the word "original" that threw me. Original year of publication of this edition, or of the work in any form? Definitely overthinking it, particularly since all I have is a copyright date, and not even that for the PG version.Original year of publication
Anyway, I've made my choice and moved on. Thanks to everyone who chipped in.
Tom Penn