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Post by KevinS » April 11th, 2019, 2:43 pm

I'm having a beast of a time getting edits made. Is there a button or something I can click to make a visual mark on the scrolling 'sine waves' as I listen and that will mark when/where I have made a mistake needing corrections?

Your help appreciated.
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Post by GrayHouse » April 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm

You could use a label track. Usual shortcut keys are:
- Ctrl M to add a label at the current position during playback/recording. I think you can also use that to mark errors and stumbles as you record.
- Ctrl B to add a label at the currently selected edit position or selection (when you're not in play/record)

When you're inserting or deleting you need to ensure that you drag the cursor down in to the label track so you select the same interval in both tracks, otherwise your label track will get out of sync with your audio track.

You can delete the label track when you're finished with it.

Does that help?

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Post by TriciaG » April 11th, 2019, 3:46 pm

This question sounds snarky, but I do not mean it that way:

Why would you need to mark places that need correction, rather than making the correction then and there? :hmm:

Unless you want to re-record, and you're not at the mic at that moment.

(I'm trying to figure out what you're doing, and maybe suggest a completely alternate method of editing.)
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Post by KevinS » April 11th, 2019, 3:55 pm

When I stumble with a word or am uncertain about a pronunciation, I re-record the complete sentence until I get it right. Sometimes it takes three and even four new recordings. I'd like to mark just before the segments in question. Then I can erase easily what I do not want.

Does that make sense?
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Post by KevinS » April 11th, 2019, 3:57 pm

GrayHouse wrote:
April 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm
You could use a label track. Usual shortcut keys are:
- Ctrl M to add a label at the current position during playback/recording. I think you can also use that to mark errors and stumbles as you record.
- Ctrl B to add a label at the currently selected edit position or selection (when you're not in play/record)

When you're inserting or deleting you need to ensure that you drag the cursor down in to the label track so you select the same interval in both tracks, otherwise your label track will get out of sync with your audio track.

You can delete the label track when you're finished with it.

Does that help?

-Ian
Thank you, Ian. That seems to make sense. I'll have a look.
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Post by TriciaG » April 11th, 2019, 4:20 pm

KevinS wrote:
April 11th, 2019, 3:55 pm
When I stumble with a word or am uncertain about a pronunciation, I re-record the complete sentence until I get it right. Sometimes it takes three and even four new recordings. I'd like to mark just before the segments in question. Then I can erase easily what I do not want.

Does that make sense?
Yep, makes sense! What a lot of people do in those cases is make a loud noise such that it causes a spike in the wave form. Snap of the fingers (if you can snap loud enough), click of the tongue (if your mic is sensitive enough), clap of the hands, air horn (ok, kidding on this one)... what we do not recommend is to tap the mic, as this can damage the mic over time.
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Post by KevinS » April 11th, 2019, 4:29 pm

TriciaG wrote:
April 11th, 2019, 4:20 pm
KevinS wrote:
April 11th, 2019, 3:55 pm
When I stumble with a word or am uncertain about a pronunciation, I re-record the complete sentence until I get it right. Sometimes it takes three and even four new recordings. I'd like to mark just before the segments in question. Then I can erase easily what I do not want.

Does that make sense?
Yep, makes sense! What a lot of people do in those cases is make a loud noise such that it causes a spike in the wave form. Snap of the fingers (if you can snap loud enough), click of the tongue (if your mic is sensitive enough), clap of the hands, air horn (ok, kidding on this one)... what we do not recommend is to tap the mic, as this can damage the mic over time.
I made sense! Hahahah!

Thanks for the help!

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Post by TriciaG » April 11th, 2019, 4:32 pm

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Post by annise » April 11th, 2019, 4:47 pm

You can just take a deep breath, watch till there is a space you can see in the waves, and try again, the gaps show up when you edit.

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Post by KevinS » April 11th, 2019, 5:49 pm

Thank you!
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Post by DaleInTexas » April 12th, 2019, 7:40 pm

Get a cheap, dog clicker from a pet supply store.
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I also keep a clickable, ballpoint pen in my booth. I usually hold it while recording, much like a conductor's wand. Although I typically snap my fingers a couple of times, to mark re-takes, I guess one could click the pen, up close to the mic, for a similar effect.
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Post by JenniferFour » April 17th, 2019, 10:14 am

I saw this tip and thought it was great...mark each take. First error gets 1 click, next gets 2, third gets 3 etc. this lets you see pretty well how far back you can delete.

Another option - switch to punch and roll recording. Doing this, you basically start each take fresh, erasing the bad phrase. This is great for errors; doesn’t work if you want to choose from different takes. Audacity has it as does (for free) Ocenaudio and Studio One prime.
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Post by BetsyWalker » April 19th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Okay - newbie question here.

What is a label track? I have actually become pretty comfortable finding & deleting errors, re-recording small sections and inserting where needed. I just work with the track that has the blue waves and spikes. I assume that is the audio track. What is a label track?

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Post by KevinS » April 19th, 2019, 4:11 pm

When I find out, I'll tell you. (I bet someone will beat me to an explanation.)
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Post by KevinS » April 19th, 2019, 4:14 pm

Here's the page from the online manual.

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/creating_and_selecting_labels.html

A label track allows you to annotate a recording in a separate non-audible (?) track. This is good for marking the beginnings of questions and answers in an interview, for instance.
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