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Peter Why
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Post by Peter Why » September 12th, 2019, 6:02 pm

Thanks, Availle; it's very early in the morning for me, so I'll listen to them in about 8 hours' time.

EDIT: That sounds fine; thanks, Availle.

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Post by mightyfelix » September 15th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Help with French, please!

Les sourd-muets se trouvent-ils malheureux?

No translation needed, just pronunciation, please. :)

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Post by tovarisch » September 15th, 2019, 5:50 pm

Could a native speaker please check my attempt to help Devorah:

https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/french_for_devorah.mp3

Thank you!
tovarisch
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    to PLers: do correct my pronunciation please

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Post by Kitty » September 16th, 2019, 1:18 am

tovarisch wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 5:50 pm
Could a native speaker please check my attempt to help Devorah:
https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/french_for_devorah.mp3
almost correct, Victor, just 2 small errors:

1) "les" (plural), you said "le" (singular): "les" sounds more like the English "lay" (not exactly, not really an "ey" sound but close. More like without pronouncing the 'i' at the end - it's difficult to explain). Maybe you know the French word "lait" (milk) it's pronounced exactly the same way
2) "trouvent" (plural again), you don't pronounce and nasalize the ending syllable "ent" in plural endings. So it's only "trouvetil" (the liaison with the end-t and the initial-i was very correct)

The rest was perfect. :thumbs:

I cannot record right now, Devorah, but if you need to hear what I mean, I can do it this evening. But maybe with Victor's file and my additional explanation you will manage.

Sonia

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Post by mightyfelix » September 16th, 2019, 3:34 pm

Kitty wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 1:18 am
tovarisch wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 5:50 pm
Could a native speaker please check my attempt to help Devorah:
https://librivox.org/uploads/tests/french_for_devorah.mp3
almost correct, Victor, just 2 small errors:

1) "les" (plural), you said "le" (singular): "les" sounds more like the English "lay" (not exactly, not really an "ey" sound but close. More like without pronouncing the 'i' at the end - it's difficult to explain). Maybe you know the French word "lait" (milk) it's pronounced exactly the same way
2) "trouvent" (plural again), you don't pronounce and nasalize the ending syllable "ent" in plural endings. So it's only "trouvetil" (the liaison with the end-t and the initial-i was very correct)

The rest was perfect. :thumbs:

I cannot record right now, Devorah, but if you need to hear what I mean, I can do it this evening. But maybe with Victor's file and my additional explanation you will manage.

Sonia
I think I kind of understand what you mean, but it would really help to have a sample to imitate. If you could still manage. Thank you both! :D

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Post by tovarisch » September 16th, 2019, 5:57 pm

I think I've corrected the sound following Kitty's notes. Same link.
tovarisch
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Post by Kitty » September 16th, 2019, 11:51 pm

tovarisch wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 5:57 pm
I think I've corrected the sound following Kitty's notes. Same link.
it's perfect like that, Victor :thumbs: so I didn't explain too bad after all.

Devorah, sorry I got your message too late, but Victor made a great job of it, it's exactly how it should sound :)

Sonia

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Post by mightyfelix » September 17th, 2019, 11:21 pm

Great, thanks again. I'll be running here and there with hardly a minute at home over the next two to three days, but I will at least find the time to download this file so that I'll have it at hand when I'm ready to record again. As I understand it, files in the tests folder can't be depended on to stick around for long before they're cleared out. :P

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Post by tovarisch » September 18th, 2019, 5:28 am

I have a copy of it, Devorah. :)
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Post by Availle » September 18th, 2019, 5:34 am

We're trying to keep the tests around for half a year or so. You won't be gone that long, right? :shock:
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Post by mightyfelix » September 18th, 2019, 7:09 pm

Availle wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 5:34 am
We're trying to keep the tests around for half a year or so. You won't be gone that long, right? :shock:
Haha no of course not! I wasn't sure how often they were cleaned out, really. I just wanted to be safe. But I've just saved a copy of it, so that I'll have it anyway. :)

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