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earthcalling
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Post by earthcalling » June 13th, 2006, 3:41 pm

CHEERS Go team! Go team!!

(Darn, where's that pom-pom? Had it around here somewhere...)

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Post by a.r.dobbs » June 13th, 2006, 3:48 pm

8) yeh -- 's cool ... concentrating for the pole vault ... cheers and pompoms recede into a slow motion hush ...

... watchin' those numbers roll up in the uploader ...

G U Y S -- I'm telling you ... it's fun to read a chapter raw too!
I'm reading 15a --hahahahaha-- who's going to take 15b ???
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Post by Stephan » June 13th, 2006, 4:11 pm

Anita, check on "Gbits-00-19-25-32-34_NC.wav" and advise.
It seems terribly wrong.
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Post by Stephan » June 13th, 2006, 11:47 pm

I am happy with my edit.
D O N E !
http://librivox.gesine.org/upload/ulysses/Script2nd3rd_edit_v17.mp3
Stephan -- I know this is just demo, but I want to place my vote for keeping that "sideways" trick -- "his boater straw set sideways..." -- I nearly slipped off my chair. I like that! Of course ... it does make it hard to pay attention to the next bit while wonderment is so strong...
boater straw? trick? sideways?
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Post by earthcalling » June 13th, 2006, 11:59 pm

Oh my goodness! This is just unbelievably brilliant!

I'm awestruck. Gobsmacked. Gargleblasted.

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Post by a.r.dobbs » June 14th, 2006, 12:44 am

Stephan wrote:I am happy with my edit.
D O N E !
http://librivox.gesine.org/upload/ulysses/Script2nd3rd_edit_v17.mp3
I feel like ... a proud papa pacing out of the delivery room, wanting to hand out cigars!

I was halfway through listening when The Good Reverend Doctor quizzed me about the editing, so he listened, and we were ... yow! Dr: "d*mn... that was pretty kick*ss!" We got all asterisky over it!
pow

So ... that's way beyond prooflisten!
But ... a lot of us are still in rough cut, and that's the right spot for prooflistening -- The Good Reverend Doctor's edit The Chase is up on the first post of the Edit thread for prooflistening
http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2476

And as for this ...
Stephan wrote:
Stephan -- I know this is just demo, but I want to place my vote for keeping that "sideways" trick -- "his boater straw set sideways..." -- I nearly slipped off my chair. I like that! Of course ... it does make it hard to pay attention to the next bit while wonderment is so strong...
boater straw? trick? sideways?
It was a comment regarding this environmental effects demo:
Stephan wrote:Do you guys know enviromental effects? They come with todays soundcards and can be tweaked till kingdom-come. Todays computer games use them. Of course they should be used WAY WAY WAY more subtle.
Listen with headphones for full effect:
--> http://www.moebius.mynetcologne.de/enviromental_effects_demo.mp3
Some effect happened at the word "sideways" that made the word itself seem to be sideways. ... that's all ...

heavens Stephan, thank you for showing the power of play
and you've left such a perfect segue for the next scene, too!

I listen again and again -- my favorite is The Flight!!
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Post by Stephan » June 14th, 2006, 12:56 am

Thank you David and Anita.
You ever invent new ways to compliment. :D
I am so limited to express myself in english.
happy happy happy.
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Post by Gesine » June 14th, 2006, 6:52 am

Damn just typed a whole long whinging message and hit the wrong keyboad shortcut and it's all gone... anyway. I'm back in the internet cafe, having had to spent most of the last 36 hours at home waiting for people who never showed up, or running around for things... Brian and I are taking turns and so I have a little time now.

The good news is that we got our ADLS connection at home this morning. Of course it doesn't work and now we're waiting for the technician, who won't be able to figure it out, either... grrrrrr... (I seem to have 'grrrrr' in my messages a lot at the moment)

Whilst I'm writing this, the file TheEndStage1edit.wav is uploading to the Ulysses folder. Sorry it's so late. I'm also uploading The End ? Draft edit stage 1 by Gesine.doc which contains the changes etc to be made to the draft edit.

When I've uploaded, I will try and download Stephan's file... this is so exciting! And we have all the recordings! Woohoo!
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Post by ceastman » June 14th, 2006, 7:32 am

a.r.dobbs wrote: -----------------------

So I've assigned 76 - The Voices of all the Damned to ceastman/Peter - I'm sure it'll be fine and it's one more part DONE.
I've also put ceastman/Peter down (with a ?) for 78 - The Voices of all the Blessed because I think that would be such beautiful symmetry... will you do it? It's just one line.
* * *
Well, the Blessed and the Damned are both done actually, one being the reverse of the other, and we can run it through effects, etc... I'll have to fish the file out of our ... 15c archives :)
Wow.
So much stuff has gotten done.
I have no idea if you still need this file, but here's the location for the original 2 test runs Peter and I did for Blessed/Damned to demonstrate what the reversal-of-sound effect actually sounds like:

http://www.stanford.edu/~ceastman/Alleluias_reversals.mp3


a.r.dobbs wrote:ceastman - would you read 55 - A Whore, please? I've put you down with a ?
Also, have all the whores recorded 54 - The Whores? That would be ceastman, kri, Alessia, Kymmz - at least 2 or 3 of them, perhaps. Who can check?
* * *
Ah, smart me (at smarter Stephan's pointing out missingness of lines) PMd all the gals last night before my sleep
Ah, stupid me forgot ceastman and peastman are ON VACATION starting today (Hi Catharine, as you read this in some Internet cafe or such!)
Yup. On my parents' computer, which has a lovely super-speedy Internet connection (and even has Audacity on it, 'cos my dad has lots of old 8-track tapes he wants to burn to CD), but no microphone. So, no, I cannot read A Whore, and I forgot to read The Whores, 'cos I forgot that Zoe's part of that group. Anita was talking to me about being flirtatious yet innocent, see... And it looks like you've got all the recording files you need, anyway.

Again I say: wow. Everyone's really been working hard and amazingly to put this together. I can hardly wait to hear... :shock: .. the final product!

(I'd like to listen to individual bits too, but at the moment have no time.)

:!: :!: :!: everyone!!!!

-Catharine

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Post by Gesine » June 14th, 2006, 7:55 am

The End stage 1 edit is uploaded and in the Ulysses folder. I also just moved UlyssesChase1Draft (or some such thing) to the Ulysses folder.

I'm recording a Ulysses orphan right now so will check back later...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination circles the world." Albert Einstein

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Post by a.r.dobbs » June 15th, 2006, 1:21 am

In a nearby galaxy...
Anadaxis_Canejia wrote:What on earth is Disney's stake in Joyce??
"In 1998, however, Congress added another 20 years to copyrights through a law that some dubbed
the Mickey Mouse Protection Act (Disney lobbied heavily for the bill)."

Disney is just accidentally in an article about Joyce.
What would be in the public domain now
if the copyright laws hadn't been
strongarmed by Disney?
Mickey Mouse.
See?

And we
have been having
such a great time in our wild
Ulysses 15c Playful Experiment and
its mesmerizing spinoff idea posed by Stephan
of "open code editing" . . . extended play . . .
i think i'd like to be . . . in denial now.
Before it's removed from Librivox,
please do yourself the favor
of listening to a snippet
in the Life of 15c
The Race
mp3 6.5MB
--Stephan editor
and sound designer
and then ... there's more
at the 15c editing captain's log

...Joyce's work returned to copyrighted
status (in the US, at least) through 2011...


It looks like we can't share the fruits of our play but
! ! ! ! * W E * S U R E * S H A R E D * T H E * P L A Y * ! ! ! !
Anita

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Post by kristin » June 15th, 2006, 1:47 am

WOW... it is absolutely brilliant... I don't have words... and it has to go away? :cry:

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Post by Stephan » June 15th, 2006, 2:36 am

W T F !

(sorry thats not constructive, i know.)
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Post by a.r.dobbs » June 15th, 2006, 2:39 am

Stephan wrote:W T F !

(sorry thats not constructive, i know.)
I'm grabbing that quote in case you decide to edit it later.
Right now, I find it very soothing.
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Post by a.r.dobbs » June 15th, 2006, 3:17 am

So Why is Ulysses on Gutenberg???

I just found some confusion to add to my confusion:

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=5001400563
Publication Information: Article Title: Copyright Protectionism and Its Discontents: The Case of James Joyce's Ulysses in America. Contributors: Robert Spoo - author. Journal Title: Yale Law Journal. Volume: 108. Issue: 3. Publication Year: 1998. Page Number: 633. COPYRIGHT 1998 Yale University, School of Law; COPYRIGHT 2002 Gale Group
Since it is often claimed that Ulysses is protected by copyright in the United States, and since these claims have a chilling effect on the activities of present-day publishers, scholars, and readers, a clarification of the copyright status of Ulysses in America is badly needed. Now that Congress has passed legislation to extend existing copyright terms by twenty years, it is particularly important to determine whether the American copyright in Ulysses is fact or fiction.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/?id=ULYSSES.TUL
"Ulysses" Has No U.S. Copyright [dated 1999]

No ... I guess those are out-dated ... this one is ... this week

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060613-7048.htmlIs James Joyce's estate misusing its copyright?
6/13/2006 3:09:15 PM, by Nate Anderson

and
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060619fa_fact
Posted 2006-06-12
Scholars must ask ... permission to quote sizable passages or to reproduce manuscript pages from those works of Joyce?s that remain under copyright?including ?Ulysses? and ?Finnegans Wake?...

interestingly, "Stehen James Joyce [JJ's grandson] has blocked or discouraged countless public readings of ?Ulysses,? and once tried unsuccessfully to halt a Web audiocast of the book."

So... The New Yorker ... well ... then I'm not that confused, I guess.
But why couldn't they have published this last year rather than this week? That would have spoiled our fun, eh? ... 2011 ...
Anita

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