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maxgal
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Post by maxgal » April 13th, 2020, 8:09 am

lurcherlover wrote:
April 13th, 2020, 12:49 am
maxgal wrote:
April 12th, 2020, 11:04 pm
maxgal wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 4:13 pm
...So now my general reading pace seems to be about 110-115WPM.
It does seem "too slow" compared with what seems to be the norm.
But trying to read faster conjures up the same problems.
("I've tried to speed it up, but then I trip all over the words & run out of breath & generally get stressed out.")
So I guess it just adds to the suspense, when that's appropriate. :shock:
...LJB
There is a tendency for people to read too fast - including me - and I frequently shout into the mic "slow up, you ******" to make myself slow down.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I talk to myself too!
And not always nicely.
I see I'm in good company.
...LJB
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Post by AudreyCatherine » September 2nd, 2020, 7:00 pm

I listened to part of The Secret Agent, chapter eight. I like that you didn't rush; a nice speed. There are a few "crackles" in the background, but it wasn't too bad and I could certainly still hear you. :)
Audrey Catherine :oops:

CassiopeiaSparks
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Post by CassiopeiaSparks » March 7th, 2021, 1:58 pm

maxgal wrote:
April 12th, 2020, 11:04 pm
maxgal wrote:
August 31st, 2019, 4:13 pm
OK, this isn't necessarily about sucking per se, but...
I seem to read aloud more slooooowwwwwly than anyone else I have ever heard!
No matter what ... it can be a political essay, a fairy tale, a scary/spooky story, a humorous story, a Grand Guignol narration, a nonfiction piece for the
Insomnia collection (which I know is supposed to be slow-ish), etc...
My recording speed (even with trimming the pauses) is consistently about 125WPM.
I've tried to speed it up, but then I trip all over the words & run out of breath & generally get stressed out. :roll:
For the most part, I think I sound OK, but sometimes it seems that "everyone else" is on the ball & I'm not!
Or something.
On the other hand, I've been told a number of times that I'm "very calm" and "very calming" to be around.
Anyone else got this particular weirdness?
...So now my general reading pace seems to be about 110-115WPM.
It does seem "too slow" compared with what seems to be the norm.
But trying to read faster conjures up the same problems.
("I've tried to speed it up, but then I trip all over the words & run out of breath & generally get stressed out.")
So I guess it just adds to the suspense, when that's appropriate. :shock:
...LJB
I certainly find that my regular speaking rate is slower than most, and it only gets slower when I am reading aloud, especially as some of my focus is going towards enunciating. My solution has been, when I feel like my recording is just ridiculously slow, to edit the tempo effect. Usually an 8-10% increase is enough to make me feel like I'm not making my listeners hold their breath for the next word, and still doesn't speed it up too much that it sounds like I'm tripping over myself.
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Post by CassiopeiaSparks » March 7th, 2021, 2:06 pm

The problem I'm running into, and am interested in hearing other people's solutions or suggestions for, is how to record a longer chapter and maintain continuity of volume/clarity and energy.
Do you read the whole section, 30-60 minutes as it may be, all in one go, then edit a saved copy of the raw recording? Or record in 15 minute increments, then edit that, and record and edit, record and edit? Or record a few minutes, listen to a bit, adjust and continue recording...?
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Post by Darvinia » March 8th, 2021, 10:51 am

If I'm recording a long section I make sure I have enough time (at least twice as long as the section will take). Then I record 15 or 20 minutes, whatever I'm comfortable with, leave the recording set up exactly as it is and take a break. Have a drink, walk around, stretch, come back and record another 15-20 minutes. Rinse and repeat. So I record it all in one afternoon over a few sessions.When I come back to do a session I listen to a couple of minutes of my previous session to make sure that my voice volume is similar. After I have recorded the whole thing in this manner then I edit it at leisure another day.

I save often, usually about every 5 minutes. Making sure that a save is the last thing I do before I take a break.
Bev

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Everybody's got a mountain to climb - Dickey Betts
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice - Neil Peart
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Post by CassiopeiaSparks » March 10th, 2021, 3:44 am

Darvinia wrote:
March 8th, 2021, 10:51 am
If I'm recording a long section I make sure I have enough time (at least twice as long as the section will take). Then I record 15 or 20 minutes, whatever I'm comfortable with, leave the recording set up exactly as it is and take a break. Have a drink, walk around, stretch, come back and record another 15-20 minutes. Rinse and repeat. So I record it all in one afternoon over a few sessions.When I come back to do a session I listen to a couple of minutes of my previous session to make sure that my voice volume is similar. After I have recorded the whole thing in this manner then I edit it at leisure another day.

I save often, usually about every 5 minutes. Making sure that a save is the last thing I do before I take a break.
This is great detail, thank you! That makes a lot of sense, to record all in one stretch of time, just with breaks, and listen back a little bit to make sure you're still matching.

Obviously there is a wide range of section lengths, depending on what selection you choose to claim. My longest recording so far was 45 minutes by the time I was done editing. What is your longest? And your average? Just out of curiosity, in context of the conversation.
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Post by Darvinia » March 10th, 2021, 11:15 am

CassiopeiaSparks wrote: What is your longest? And your average? Just out of curiosity, in context of the conversation.
The longest one I could find, going through my catalogue, was 62 minutes. My average seems to be around 30-40 minutes edited finished length. I don't read a lot of poetry which is usually quite short. I tend to go for short stories or whole chapters of collaborations.
Bev

I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam - Popeye, the sailor man
Everybody's got a mountain to climb - Dickey Betts
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Post by lurcherlover » July 19th, 2021, 6:01 am

CassiopeiaSparks wrote:
March 7th, 2021, 2:06 pm
The problem I'm running into, and am interested in hearing other people's solutions or suggestions for, is how to record a longer chapter and maintain continuity of volume/clarity and energy.
Do you read the whole section, 30-60 minutes as it may be, all in one go, then edit a saved copy of the raw recording? Or record in 15 minute increments, then edit that, and record and edit, record and edit? Or record a few minutes, listen to a bit, adjust and continue recording...?
My method is to record in short bursts, whether it's a short story or a whole book. I find that after 10-20 minutes of recording my voice needs a rest, depending on how it is on that day. Usually the setup is the same and the mics are already set up and waiting. If I decide to change mics or something else then I make sure it sounds the same and there is no problem with continuity. The room acoustic and the distance from the mic stays the same so normally there is no problem, and I always record in the same room. I have few problems with outside interruptions, although they can and do happen. But the general "noise floor" remains the same, and any problems can be corrected in editing. I always monitor with headphones so any slight deviation or noise can be easily heard.

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Post by paullawleyjones » November 22nd, 2021, 12:17 am

the Literate Loser wrote:
October 1st, 2005, 11:05 pm
So I don't want to suck.
You know what, embrace the suck[1]! Because, if you do, the only way is up!

[1] In the military, 'embrace the suck' means "To consciously accept or appreciate something that is extremely unpleasant but unavoidable."
Paul Lawley-Jones (he/him/it/they/you - Wait! What was the question?)

"You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks." – Winston Churchill

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Post by Cruelle » December 27th, 2021, 5:24 pm

When I first joined Librivox in 2015, I had a lot of anxiety about how my voice sounds, so I tried to contribute a chapter, but wasn’t able to go through with it. Now I am feeling more confident as a person and hope to start contributing for real.

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Post by Tonytown » January 13th, 2022, 2:24 pm

Thank you all for your posts. I've just taken 3 months+ to record 6 minutes because of fear of suckage. Good to see I'm not alone. I'm marking this thread, I'm gonna need it.

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Post by lurcherlover » January 14th, 2022, 2:09 am

You have to record and edit and upload no matter how bad you may "think" your reading or voice is. I've been doing this for over five years and I'm still learning and hopefully improving my readings if it is only by 5% a year. I'm hoping to get to be reasonably good before I kick the bucket. (Also - we all think our voices are bad, unless you are Stephen Fry - who does have a great voice!)

I'm also getting increasingly "picky" about what I record. I've just recorded a piece that may be about 20 minutes+ in length but decided by the end that it was a load of old ***** so I won't bother editing it.

You can always ask family or friends to listen to a three minute extract of what you have recorded and give a "constructive" opinion. My wife helps a lot with great ideas of how to improve.

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Post by CSCO » January 15th, 2022, 2:22 am

If you want to get the best work, you couldn't produce any work.
Unsprung works show you are in fighting.
The best comes from your massive works naturally.
(A wiseman in the East. I don't know his name.)
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No way. He stole away a pretty thing, you know.
That's your heart.
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