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Post by hugh »

oh man this guy is getting under my skin, I am mackinaw; the wikipedia admin is Mel_Etitis, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mackinaw

and:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mel_Etitis
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Post by thistlechick »

hugh wrote:oh man this guy is getting under my skin, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mackinaw
But he seems to be defending us... now i'm really confused....

anyway, White Fang is ready to be linked at Wikipedia:

http://librivox.org/white-fang-by-jack-london/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_London
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Fang
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Post by Bronwyn Kate »

I really don't get it.

Do any of you also edit Wikipedia along with Librivox?

I think they respond better to known members rather than IPs.
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Post by hugh »

ha ha!! I am mackinaw; Mel-Etitis is the admin with whom I am doing battle.

Mel_etis says: because volunteers are associated with the LV site, they are not permitted to post links to LV content on wikipedia. He has removed most LV links in wikipedia.

he says we must post links in the Talk section and let some "other" editor decide whether it is acceptable to post the links. This is driving me nutso.
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Post by LibraryLady »

This is just ridiculous. Is there some higher level admin we can appeal this to?
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Post by hugh »

well i did send an email to jimmy wales, but don't hold your breath ;)
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Post by hugh »

Ha ha ha Jimmy wales just wrote back!
If you'll send me a link to a discussion, I'll be happy to weigh in.
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Post by LibraryLady »

That's awesome!
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Post by hugh »

it almost makes spending 9:30am to 2:45pm of my precious sunday battling with this guy, worth it.
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Post by kri »

hugh wrote:this is just one over-zealous admin ... so i think it'll smooth itself out.
h.
I agree. One over-zealous admin who didn't pay much attention. As far as I can tell he's the only one who has made any changes, and they were all to ones that were edited with my IP. Do a search on Wikipedia for Librivox, and you'll see four pages of results with links to Librivox audio recordings in Wikipedia pages.
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Post by hugh »

yes the argument is basically that it looks like linkspam (not logged in, many links to many pages all at once), and so it should be treated as such. anyway, the big kahuna promises to wade into the fray, so that should help.
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Post by kayray »

let me know how this turns out -- I'm trying not to get involved for the sake of my health and sanity, but I can't help being curious ;-)
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hugh wrote:yes the argument is basically that it looks like linkspam (not logged in, many links to many pages all at once), and so it should be treated as such. anyway, the big kahuna promises to wade into the fray, so that should help.
I'm probably being too harsh, but he seems like a narrow headed idiot. It makes me think of people who feel that the letter of the law is the most important thing. Bah reading your argument with him frustrates me. I hope this works out in the end, because it would be stupid to deprive people visiting Wikipedia of this resource.
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Post by thistlechick »

If for some reason we're not allowed to add our links to Wikipedia, will we remove our links TO Wikipedia from out Catalog pages?
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thistlechick wrote:If for some reason we're not allowed to add our links to Wikipedia, will we remove our links TO Wikipedia from out Catalog pages?
I would say yes, just to be vindictive but...I think we'd have to weigh the usefulness of the resource vs. any objection morally to their policies. I would say the objection is a moral/ethical one of spam vs. legitimate linking. I certainly wouldn't link to a site if I had enough of an ethical problem with the contents of the site. However, I don't know if such is the case now.
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