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Post by RayanneR » July 1st, 2020, 11:35 am

I would love to take chapter 3 if no one else has. I see that you've broken the recordings down into smaller subsections. Do you want me to add the into and ending scripts to each of the subsections, or just to the first and last?
With grins,
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P.S. I think I'd prefer the longer "Rayanne Robison" for the catalog.
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Post by mightyfelix » July 1st, 2020, 5:36 pm

RayanneR wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:35 am
I would love to take chapter 3 if no one else has. I see that you've broken the recordings down into smaller subsections. Do you want me to add the into and ending scripts to each of the subsections, or just to the first and last?
With grins,
RayanneR
P.S. I think I'd prefer the longer "Rayanne Robison" for the catalog.
Welcome! Happy to have you here!

Do you mean that you want to do the entirety of chapter 3? Or only one of the subsections? It's extremely long (almost 60 pages), which is why I broke it into pieces, and there's no obligation to do all of it, if you prefer to do only part.

And yes, those scripts need to be present in each recording, that is to say, in each section.

I see that you've already submitted your one minute test. Please wait until you get that test okayed before you start recording for this, just to be sure there aren't any kinks to work out. In the meantime, I will go ahead and assign you the first part of chapter 3. Here is your personal catalogue page-----> https://librivox.org/reader/14596 This page will list every project that you're reading for, including, eventually, completed projects. You can click on your name in the MW of a project you're signed up for to get to this page. I can link a personal blog or website to it as well, if you have one.

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Post by adrianstephens » July 2nd, 2020, 9:14 am

Hello Devorah,

I have recorded section 2, and the edited duration is 77 minutes.
The "official" limit is 60 minutes.

How would you like me to proceed?

Best Regards,
Adrian
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Post by mightyfelix » July 2nd, 2020, 3:28 pm

adrianstephens wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 9:14 am
Hello Devorah,

I have recorded section 2, and the edited duration is 77 minutes.
The "official" limit is 60 minutes.

How would you like me to proceed?

Best Regards,
Adrian
Oh, I wasn't expecting that! :hmm: Most of the other sections are of comparable length, so that's a bit concerning.

However, it's not quite so bad as all that. We can actually go up to 72 minutes. I'm not sure where you saw 60. I know that sometimes, others have found a slight tempo shift to be all that's necessary to make a section fit the required length. I've never done it myself, because I've never had the need, but you could try changing the tempo by maybe 8% or so? If it's a small enough change, it's not usually noticeable. Would you try this, and see if you can get it down to 71:something? (If you're not sure how, or would rather not, you can upload what you have, and I'll see what I can do.)

I'd rather not have to redo the section breaks, if I can help it. Especially because it feels clunky enough, having to break most of our chapters into 3 or 4 parts.

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Post by mleigh » July 2nd, 2020, 5:39 pm

I could do the following if you would like:

9 Chapter 7, part 1 p 370-389. Read through "relationships and faculties." Open
20 Chapter 7, part 2 p 389-408. Read from "There are some objections" Open

Thanks,

M

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Post by mightyfelix » July 2nd, 2020, 5:49 pm

mleigh wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 5:39 pm
I could do the following if you would like:

9 Chapter 7, part 1 p 370-389. Read through "relationships and faculties." Open
20 Chapter 7, part 2 p 389-408. Read from "There are some objections" Open

Thanks,

M
Sounds great, thank you!

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Post by adrianstephens » July 2nd, 2020, 10:12 pm

mightyfelix wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 3:28 pm
adrianstephens wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 9:14 am
Hello Devorah,

I have recorded section 2, and the edited duration is 77 minutes.
The "official" limit is 60 minutes.

How would you like me to proceed?

Best Regards,
Adrian
Oh, I wasn't expecting that! :hmm: Most of the other sections are of comparable length, so that's a bit concerning.

However, it's not quite so bad as all that. We can actually go up to 72 minutes. I'm not sure where you saw 60. I know that sometimes, others have found a slight tempo shift to be all that's necessary to make a section fit the required length. I've never done it myself, because I've never had the need, but you could try changing the tempo by maybe 8% or so? If it's a small enough change, it's not usually noticeable. Would you try this, and see if you can get it down to 71:something? (If you're not sure how, or would rather not, you can upload what you have, and I'll see what I can do.)

I'd rather not have to redo the section breaks, if I can help it. Especially because it feels clunky enough, having to break most of our chapters into 3 or 4 parts.
Agreed that 72 minutes is a likely limit. I'd say I read fairly quickly, so if the sections are the same length, you will find other readers will probably exceed the 72 minutes. Checker fails the file for exceeding 60 minutes.

This is the longest section I've had to read. A typical max in the past was 45 minutes.

I think your best bet is to re-divide the chapters, before you've got people signed up to read them.

Best Regards,
Adrian
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Part 15: Case Study (Poem) https://youtu.be/41sr_VC1Qxo
Part 16: Case Study 2 (Dramatic Reading) https://youtu.be/GBIAd469vnM

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Post by adrianstephens » July 3rd, 2020, 12:27 am

adrianstephens wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 10:12 pm
mightyfelix wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 3:28 pm
adrianstephens wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 9:14 am
Hello Devorah,

I have recorded section 2, and the edited duration is 77 minutes.
The "official" limit is 60 minutes.

How would you like me to proceed?

Best Regards,
Adrian
Oh, I wasn't expecting that! :hmm: Most of the other sections are of comparable length, so that's a bit concerning.

However, it's not quite so bad as all that. We can actually go up to 72 minutes. I'm not sure where you saw 60. I know that sometimes, others have found a slight tempo shift to be all that's necessary to make a section fit the required length. I've never done it myself, because I've never had the need, but you could try changing the tempo by maybe 8% or so? If it's a small enough change, it's not usually noticeable. Would you try this, and see if you can get it down to 71:something? (If you're not sure how, or would rather not, you can upload what you have, and I'll see what I can do.)

I'd rather not have to redo the section breaks, if I can help it. Especially because it feels clunky enough, having to break most of our chapters into 3 or 4 parts.
Agreed that 72 minutes is a likely limit. I'd say I read fairly quickly, so if the sections are the same length, you will find other readers will probably exceed the 72 minutes. Checker fails the file for exceeding 60 minutes.

This is the longest section I've had to read. A typical max in the past was 45 minutes.

I think your best bet is to re-divide the chapters, before you've got people signed up to read them.

Best Regards,
Adrian
Case solved - I'm such an idiot. I recorded from the start of Chapter 1. I was confused when I came across the Chapter 2 heading part way through - but not sufficiently alterted to note my mistake.

Oh well, it was good practice.
Here is the now plenty short enough section for PL: @ 53:58
https://librivox.org/uploads/mightyfelix/greaterlifeworkofchrist_02_patterson_128kb.mp3

I generally didn't read biblical cross reference footnotes, but did when the source was external. I'm happy to cut these out if you think it distracts.

Best Regards,
Adrian
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Post by adrianstephens » July 3rd, 2020, 4:03 am

My Librivox-related YouTube series starts here: Part 0: Introduction. https://youtu.be/pMHYycgA5VU
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Part 15: Case Study (Poem) https://youtu.be/41sr_VC1Qxo
Part 16: Case Study 2 (Dramatic Reading) https://youtu.be/GBIAd469vnM

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Post by mightyfelix » July 3rd, 2020, 7:15 am

:lol: Well now, that explains things!

I knew that they would be on the lengthy side, and this is now much closer to what I was expecting! Whew! I'll get these in the MW shortly. I may even be able to PL today, long though they are.

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Post by mightyfelix » July 3rd, 2020, 11:51 am

Thank you, Adrian, I found this to be extremely interesting! I'll admit, I hadn't expected any of these footnotes, and I'm going to ask you to cut most of them. On consideration, though, we can keep a few. (The principle I'm using is, if a source is given at all in the main body of text, cut the footnote. If not, keep a shortened form.)

This will look like a lot of notes, but that's mostly just because of the length. And most of them are quick fixes. If you start at the end of the recording and work your way backward, then the time stamps won't change and it'll be easier for you to find each spot.

1:14 Footnote: For this one, keep "Huxley, Lay Sermons," and cut the rest.
9:06 Footnote: Gospels, five volumes, etc. Cut this footnote.
9:26 This one's nitpicky, and therefore OPTIONAL. Text reads "They are not synonymous." (adj) I hear "They are not synonyms." (pl. noun)
12:15-12:21 Missed edit. ("save for subsequent upheavals" etc)
21:04 Footnote "Lange, Commentary on Genesis" Cut "New York," and keep the title and author.
22:22 There is a "quote" here that is never finished off with an "end quote." (Page 36, right before "created in Christ.") With so many little quoted clauses one after the other, I'd opt to just not use quote/end quote here, but in any case, we shouldn't leave an open one.
26:07 Footnote American Journal, etc. Cut this footnote.
26:38 Footnote The Story of Earth and Man, etc. Cut this footnote.
27:09 Footnote The Reign of Law, etc. Cut this footnote.
28:23 OPTIONAL Longish pause here, after "is not necessarily accompanied..."
32:05 Changed word here, which changes the meaning. Text reads "irreverence." I hear "irrelevance."
32:08 Footnote Ascent of Man, etc. Cut this footnote.
32:55 Another open "quote" without a closing one "quote, no explanation whatever..."
33:20 Text here is "to doubt which is irreverence." I hear "no doubt which is irrelevance."
34:37 Footnote Study of Zoology, etc. Cut this footnote.
37:05 The number 5 is missing from this paragraph, which is important, I think, since the author is still listing objections. "5. Other fatal objections..."
38:18 Footnote Errors of Evolution, etc. Cut this footnote.
38:28 Missing the number 6 in the numbered list. "6. This theory confounds..."
43:37 Footnote Ten Great Religions, etc. Keep title and author, cut the rest.

All in all, very well done, especially given the complex nature of the text. I'll take a little break and do part 2 this evening.

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Post by mightyfelix » July 3rd, 2020, 3:33 pm

I just had a listen to Chapter 2, part 2. Again, I very much enjoyed it! I only have one note here. A minor snip.

24:00 Throat-clearing sound here.

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Post by adrianstephens » July 4th, 2020, 4:40 am

mightyfelix wrote:
July 3rd, 2020, 11:51 am
Thank you, Adrian, I found this to be extremely interesting! I'll admit, I hadn't expected any of these footnotes, and I'm going to ask you to cut most of them. On consideration, though, we can keep a few. (The principle I'm using is, if a source is given at all in the main body of text, cut the footnote. If not, keep a shortened form.)
Yes, I realized after I'd recorded it that I'd erred on the side of too many. But because of my other larger "err" I decided to keep
them until I'd heard back from you.


This will look like a lot of notes, but that's mostly just because of the length. And most of them are quick fixes. If you start at the end of the recording and work your way backward, then the time stamps won't change and it'll be easier for you to find each spot.
Thank you. I actually use labels to edit so that I can edit in any order. Please see my video for details:
Part 17: Editing using labels https://youtu.be/eM7wcwAL84w

Here are the edits with revised locations first
1:14 1:14 Footnote: For this one, keep "Huxley, Lay Sermons," and cut the rest.
9:01 9:06 Footnote: Gospels, five volumes, etc. Cut this footnote.
9:12 9:26 This one's nitpicky, and therefore OPTIONAL. Text reads "They are not synonymous." (adj) I hear "They are not synonyms." (pl. noun)
12:01 12:15-12:21 Missed edit. ("save for subsequent upheavals" etc)
20:40 21:04 Footnote "Lange, Commentary on Genesis" Cut "New York," and keep the title and author.
21:59 22:22 There is a "quote" here that is never finished off with an "end quote." (Page 36, right before "created in Christ.") With so many little quoted clauses one after the other, I'd opt to just not use quote/end quote here, but in any case, we shouldn't leave an open one.
25:44 26:07 Footnote American Journal, etc. Cut this footnote.
26:09 26:38 Footnote The Story of Earth and Man, etc. Cut this footnote.
26:32 27:09 Footnote The Reign of Law, etc. Cut this footnote.
27:39 28:23 OPTIONAL Longish pause here, after "is not necessarily accompanied..."
31:20 32:05 Changed word here, which changes the meaning. Text reads "irreverence." I hear "irrelevance."
31:23 32:08 Footnote Ascent of Man, etc. Cut this footnote.
32:08 32:55 Another open "quote" without a closing one "quote, no explanation whatever..."
32:30 33:20 Text here is "to doubt which is irreverence." I hear "no doubt which is irrelevance."
33:45 34:37 Footnote Study of Zoology, etc. Cut this footnote.
36:07 37:05 The number 5 is missing from this paragraph, which is important, I think, since the author is still listing objections. "5. Other fatal objections..."
37:20 38:18 Footnote Errors of Evolution, etc. Cut this footnote.
37:21 38:28 Missing the number 6 in the numbered list. "6. This theory confounds..."
42:30 43:37 Footnote Ten Great Religions, etc. Keep title and author, cut the rest.

It's now a minute shorter at 52:45. Does that means my paycheck gets reduced? :0)
https://librivox.org/uploads/mightyfelix/greaterlifeworkofchrist_02_patterson_128kb.mp3

Thank you, mighty one, for such detailed checking.
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Post by adrianstephens » July 4th, 2020, 4:41 am

mightyfelix wrote:
July 3rd, 2020, 3:33 pm
I just had a listen to Chapter 2, part 2. Again, I very much enjoyed it! I only have one note here. A minor snip.

24:00 Throat-clearing sound here.
That was the deliberate misteak to keep you on your toes :0)
https://librivox.org/uploads/mightyfelix/greaterlifeworkofchrist_03_patterson_128kb.mp3
My Librivox-related YouTube series starts here: Part 0: Introduction. https://youtu.be/pMHYycgA5VU
...
Part 15: Case Study (Poem) https://youtu.be/41sr_VC1Qxo
Part 16: Case Study 2 (Dramatic Reading) https://youtu.be/GBIAd469vnM

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Post by RayanneR » July 5th, 2020, 12:10 pm

mightyfelix wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 5:36 pm

Welcome! Happy to have you here!

Do you mean that you want to do the entirety of chapter 3? Or only one of the subsections? It's extremely long (almost 60 pages), which is why I broke it into pieces, and there's no obligation to do all of it, if you prefer to do only part.

And yes, those scripts need to be present in each recording, that is to say, in each section.

I see that you've already submitted your one minute test. Please wait until you get that test okayed before you start recording for this, just to be sure there aren't any kinks to work out. In the meantime, I will go ahead and assign you the first part of chapter 3. Here is your personal catalogue page-----> https://librivox.org/reader/14596 This page will list every project that you're reading for, including, eventually, completed projects. You can click on your name in the MW of a project you're signed up for to get to this page. I can link a personal blog or website to it as well, if you have one.
I did mean that I would take those three sections which cover the whole of chapter 3, and was aware from the beginning how much work I was volunteering for. However, as I am new, I am quite comfortable turning in only section 4 to start with, thereby displaying my ability and the quality of my recording system. If this is satisfactory, then we can proceed to other sections as need be.
I will make sure to add the appropriate title and ending cards to section 4, as well as any or all subsequent sections.
And thank you for the help with the catalog page. This helps immensely. I do have a personal website at http://rayannerobison.com/ , and I appreciate your further assistance in adding that. Truly, thank you so much for this opportunity!
With grins,
Rayanne
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