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Post by moniaqua » May 12th, 2018, 10:59 pm

Backlog's growing... I hope I can listen to something later on today :)

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Post by moniaqua » May 14th, 2018, 1:53 pm

Section 11

Interesting to hear Goethe's Zauberlehrling, a poem that probably every German has to learn by heart, in Englisch 8-)

You're really brave to take on the challenge to read the German piece :thumbs:

The notes:
  • 1:10 I hear "sin giser", there is no such word in German at Goethe's time.
  • 1:20 I hear "lieben", it must be "leben". "Lieben" means "to love", "leben" means "to live"
  • 4:06 I hear "I had now had two" (first had too much)
As I happen to be German I recorded the German words for your convenience; first "seine Geister", then "leben" and then the words in the context of the poem:
https://librivox.org/uploads/xx-nonproject/zauberlehrling_range1.mp3

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Post by 2839reader » May 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm

Elgar footnote 48 has a character called Alice W N. There is a blank space between WN. How should I read. Alice W N or Alice W blank N.

Also the list 1 to 14 @ beginning has numbers like 3-4. Do I read that 3 to 4 or 3 4.
Walkula has to get slippers of Catherine the Great. The word for slippers is "tscherewitschki". Unable to find pronunciation. Tish ere wits chkey? Is my guess.
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Post by moniaqua » May 15th, 2018, 2:40 pm

2839reader wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm
Elgar footnote 48 has a character called Alice W N. There is a blank space between WN.
Hmm. My ebook reader shows it to me as W--n. A W N I'd just read as W N, I wouldn't say the word "blank" but put a tiny little pause between W and N. The em-dash - I don't know, I tend to mention it. Lynnet?
2839reader wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm
Also the list 1 to 14 @ beginning has numbers like 3-4. Do I read that 3 to 4 or 3 4.
To me it looks pretty much as if those were the measures, so I'd probably say three fourths, or three eights, or four fourths etc.
2839reader wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm
The word for slippers is "tscherewitschki". Unable to find pronunciation.
There is a thread for pronunciation help. One of the Russians here might be able to help you :) I am only German so I can't really help you on this one.

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Post by Lynnet » May 15th, 2018, 2:50 pm

2839reader wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 1:12 pm
Elgar footnote 48 has a character called Alice W N. There is a blank space between WN. How should I read. Alice W N or Alice W blank N.

Also the list 1 to 14 @ beginning has numbers like 3-4. Do I read that 3 to 4 or 3 4.
Walkula has to get slippers of Catherine the Great. The word for slippers is "tscherewitschki". Unable to find pronunciation. Tish ere wits chkey? Is my guess.
For Alice, I would say Alice W N.
As for the list, I think it might need someone with more musical knowledge than me to answer (that would be just about anyone). Looking at Wikipedia, it looks as though it refers to the time signature, which i believe would be read as "three-four" (but I think that varies according to country conventions... I'm pretty sure my daughter... a music teacher... would call it three fourths)

As for Catherine's slippers... we could ask in pronunciation help. Tovarisch might be able to help if he is around.

Edit: looks like Monica got there first, but we have similar ideas. WN was Winifred Norbury, a secretary. So, they were her initials... same thing with the other initials. Alice was Mrs. E. (Wikipedia again)
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Post by 2839reader » May 15th, 2018, 4:30 pm

Hi, thanks for info and will do. I did find a an example for pronouncing "tscherewitschki".
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Post by Darko » May 15th, 2018, 4:54 pm

Hi,

Can I claim Schumann?

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Post by Lynnet » May 15th, 2018, 5:24 pm

Darko wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 4:54 pm
Hi,

Can I claim Schumann?

Thanks,
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Post by Availle » May 15th, 2018, 8:21 pm

I could do section 12 on Dvorak.

I have a reference (see page 85) - do you want that in?
also, throughout, there are numbers of the pieces, given as (Op. 92) - just read that as O P 92?
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Post by Lynnet » May 15th, 2018, 8:56 pm

Availle wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 8:21 pm
I could do section 12 on Dvorak.

I have a reference (see page 85) - do you want that in?
also, throughout, there are numbers of the pieces, given as (Op. 92) - just read that as O P 92?
Thank you.
I'll leave it to you, but personally, I don't see the value of referring listeners to a page number :roll: As for Op., I think I would say "opus", but, again, I wouldn't be too strict on that.
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Post by Availle » May 15th, 2018, 11:22 pm

Opus, of course! That's what I was looking for!

Ummm.. the link on my catalog page goes back to the catalog page - could you please enter the forum link to the database? Thanks! :D
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Post by moniaqua » May 16th, 2018, 2:12 am

Could listen to section 15. Ouh, what tragic story!
Were you tired when editing this, Lmnei? There are a couple of notes today:
  • 1:30 I hear Glazakoff, instead of Glazounoff
  • 1:44 I hear expanory, should be explanatory
  • 2:00 I hear Altman, should be Ataman (Ah-taah-mahn)
  • 3:13 I hear Senka, was Stenka all the times before
  • 4:02 I hear tremendolous, strings play tremolos
  • 4:20 I hear accompiment; should be accompaniment
  • 5:10 I hear "They arranged" - missing "are"
  • 6:29 "and flowers" can be cut out, it is followed by the correct "and flower"
  • 6:38 I hear "carved zone"?!
  • 7:18 significance double, first one can be cut out
  • 7:48 "chants antiphonally" double, first one can be cut out

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Post by Lynnet » May 16th, 2018, 9:58 am

Availle wrote:
May 15th, 2018, 11:22 pm


Ummm.. the link on my catalog page goes back to the catalog page - could you please enter the forum link to the database? Thanks! :D
Done... I have a bad habit of forgetting to hit 'save' :roll:
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Post by Lmnei » May 16th, 2018, 7:14 pm

Hi Lynnet and Moniaqua

Here is section 15 back for Spot PL -

https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/storiesofsymphonicmusic_15_gilman_128kb.mp3 - 8:11

Have a good evening!

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Post by Lynnet » May 16th, 2018, 7:38 pm

Lmnei wrote:
May 16th, 2018, 7:14 pm
Hi Lynnet and Moniaqua

Here is section 15 back for Spot PL -

https://librivox.org/uploads/lynnet/storiesofsymphonicmusic_15_gilman_128kb.mp3 - 8:11

Have a good evening!

Lynda
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